Session 06-07, a Regular Meeting of the Homer Advisory
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: CHESLEY, CONNOR, FOSTER,
HESS, KRANICH, LEHNER
ABSENT: PFEIL
(excused)
STAFF: CITY PLANNER MCKIBBEN
DEPUTY
CITY CLERK JOHNSON
A quorum is required
to conduct a meeting.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
AND ADOPTION OF CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the
consent agenda are considered routine and non-controversial by the
A. Time
Extension Requests
B. Approval of
City of
C. KPB Coastal Management Program Reports
D. Commissioner Excused Absences
The agenda was approved by
consensus of the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commission approves minutes with any amendments.
A.
Approval
of
The
Regular Meeting Minutes of
PUBLIC COMMENT, PRESENTATIONS
The public may speak
to the
There was no public comment.
RECONSIDERATION
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
The Commission
conducts Public Hearings by hearing a staff report, hearing public testimony
and then acting on the Public Hearing items.
The Chair may prescribe time limits.
The Commission may question the public.
There were no public hearings.
PLAT CONSIDERATION
The Commission hears a
report from staff, testimony from applicants and the public. The Commission may ask questions of staff,
applicants and the public.
There were no plat considerations.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
The Commission hears a report from staff, testimony
from applicants and the public. Commission
business includes resolutions, ordinances, zoning issues, requests for
reconsideration and other issues as needed.
The Commission may ask questions of staff, applicants, and the public.
City Planner McKibben explained the
agenda was prepared while she was on vacation and Item A should be two separate
business items: Item A as nonconforming
use and structure and Item B as interpretation of zoning code provisions.
HESS/CONNOR – MOVED TO SUSPEND THE RULES
TO AMEND THE AGENDA.
VOTE: YES.
NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
HESS/LEHNER - MOVED TO AMEND THE AGENDA
AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO CREATE TWO ITEMS FROM ITEM A: 1. REQUEST FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF
NONCONFORMING USE AND STRUCTURE; AND 2. THE INTERPRETATION OF THE ZONING CODE
PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO THE ADDITION OF EXTERIOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO
NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES. MOVED TO MOVE
EXISTING ITEM B TO ITEM C.
VOTE: YES.
NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben read the
staff report and recommendation.
HESS/LEHNER - MOVED TO ACCEPT
NONCONFORMING USE AND STRUCTURE AT SAFEWAY,
Commissioner Lehner said Safeway
has been a continual retail business since she has been here.
Commissioner Hess
City Planner McKibben said the Commission
made that determination when it was before them a year ago. Chair Chesley disagreed. City Planner McKibben said the Commission
decided Safeway did not need to go through the large retail standards. Chair Chesley said the Commission decided if
the only work Safeway did was in the existing footprint they didn’t have to go
through the CUP. Ms. McKibben said the
interpretation (of zoning code provisions applicable with addition of exterior architectural features to
nonconforming structures) is separate from the nonconforming use.
City Planner McKibben
The Commission asked if all the
large nonconforming buildings should be accepted as a blanket nonconforming
group or w
Chair Chesley said the building met
all of city code that it needed at that time and there is no reason to give it
a nonconforming use. He referenced a
property that was part of the annexation, Lloyd Moore, zoned as rural
residential with commercial activities.
He applied for a nonconforming use, as the use existing prior to
annexation was no longer consistent with the zone.
City Planner McKibben read HCC
21.64.010 regarding nonconforming uses.
Chair Chesley asked how Safeway did not meet that. Commissioner Hess asked what a permitting
requirement has to do with the structure itself, as the structure is the
physical building, not the permitting process.
A use is an activity taking place in a building.
City Planner McKibben asked what
the Commission wanted to do with it (the request for nonconforming use) and
Chair Chesley said the finding does not support granting the nonconforming
use. He said the City Planner is
applying a permit standard and it is not addressing a use or structure. Adoption of the 8,000 sq. ft. standard did
not make the structure nonconforming; it sets a new standard that any
development over 8,000 sq. ft. must go through the CUP process.
City Planner McKibben said she is
not following the logic and how the Commission has applied it in the last
year. Chair Chesley said past
nonconforming uses have had something existing that needed the nonconformity
addressed, such as a setback issue.
City Planner McKibben read the
definitions of nonconforming in HCC 21.32.345 and 346. She asked if the Commission would like to
postpone and get a legal opinion, as she disagrees. The Commission discussed nonconforming and
Ms. McKibben explained when looking at a nonconforming you look if it was legal
when permitted in the first place. With
a new application would it be legal today as it was permitted then or would it
have to do something different? In Safeway’s
case it would have to do something different and that is why it is
nonconforming.
Chair Chesley disagreed, stating
that anytime there is an administrative change nonconforming status would need
to be granted to each structure in the city.
Commissioner Hess said the Commission is charged with making
determinations on nonconforming status, so why would they want to make it a
complicated scenario. Commissioner
Foster said there could be a 30 ft. tall building in a 25 ft. zone and a future
expansion would need to meet the current code.
City Planner McKibben said our code
allows nonconforming uses to expand when they are accepted as nonconforming by
the Commission. She referenced Frank
Griswold’s nonconforming auto repair business.
Commissioner Hess said Mr. Griswold has the nonconforming garage and the
Commission has determined it is a nonconforming use. When he requests expansion he has to meet
every criterion of the new regulations in the code. The new standards would apply to the
addition, not the existing portion of the building that is nonconforming. You only get the nonconformity on the
existing portion.
Chair Chesley said the Commission
has always granted nonconformity as there is a changed use or standard in the
district. In Safeway’s case the use or
structure did not become nonconforming.
The new standard w
Commissioner Kranich said the
definitions in HCC 21.32.345 say any enlargements in the footprint of a
building require a CUP. From the instant
the nonconforming status is granted the new zoning ordinances w
Chair Chesley said the building was
lawfully permitted and there is no reason to grant a nonconforming use because
there has been a change in the permit procedure. Commissioner Foster recalled there was a
short time when there was less than a 30,000 sq. ft. building size in the CBD; then
it was nonconforming. Commissioner
Lehner believes it could be interpreted either way.
When asked what her determination
for nonconforming was, City Planner McKibben answered if a new application came
today it would go through a certain process.
If it could not be permitted outright or didn’t meet certain
requirements, such as parking and landscape in large retail, it would be
nonconforming. If it couldn’t be
permitted today as it was in the past it would be nonconforming.
The Commission asked for a basis on
declaring a nonconforming use. They asked
how the court would look at it. An
interpretation that stands on firmer legal ground is desired.
Commissioner Kranich asked if a
structure is declared a nonconforming structure, does it have to apply with all
current code. City Planner McKibben provided
the example of the auto repair shop in an annexed area operating for 20
years. They are not permitted in the RR
zoning district, and if current laws are applied they w
HESS/LEHNER – MOVED TO POSTPONE
ACTION UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
VOTE: YES. CONNOR,
LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS, CHESLEY, FOSTER
Motion carried.
Chair Chesley said he would like
the City Attorney to clarify nonconforming as it w
HESS/LEHNER – MOVED TO REQUEST
STAFF TO ASK FOR A LEGAL OPINION ON THE SUBJECT.
Commissioner Hess asked that the Commission
have the opportunity to review the question presented to the City Attorney
before it is sent. It was decided Vice
Chair Hess would be sent the question.
VOTE: YES.
LEHNER, HESS, FOSTER, CHESLEY, CONNOR, KRANICH
Motion carried.
Chair Chesley called for a recess
at
B.
Interpretation
of Zoning Code Exterior Architectural Features Provisions Applicable to
Addition of to Nonconforming Structures.
City Planner McKibben provided a
memorandum as a laydown outlining the interpretation of the subject.
Chair Chesley said he had requested
that the matter be on the agenda as he had concerns about staff’s
interpretation of code and the argument they are making. He asked for a motion to continue as one
argument hinges on the nonconforming question that is being sent to the City
Attorney.
KRANICH/LEHNER - MOVED THAT THE PLANNING
COMMISSION ACCEPT THE INTERPRETATION OF THE ZONING CODE PROVISIONS APPLICABLE
TO THE ADDITION OF EXTERIOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES
AS PROVIDED BY STAFF.
Commissioner Hess agreed with parts
of the memorandum and the City Planner’s assertion that the addition of an
architectural feature would not affect traffic, parking and community
economics. Those situations on an existing
large retail would not trigger the requirements of a CUP.
Chair Chesley said the code is
clear if the floor area is increased there is not much flexibility outside the
conditional use process of the impact.
The additions would trigger a conditional use and with the arguments of
mitigation there would be no reason to impose conditions in the conditional use
for Safeway. They could go through the
CUP process and get exactly what they need.
Commissioner Kranich agrees with
Chair Chesley and doesn’t want to take action to accept the interpretation
tonight before reading it further. He
noted the interpretation of the Planning Director that nonconforming uses of
structures must obtain permits for expansion when such permits would be
required for expansion of similar conforming uses and structures. Any extension of the floor area w
City Planner McKibben said there is
the exception of the eight circumstances listed in the memorandum. There is a significant amount of staff time, Commissioner
time, advertising and costs to go through the CUP process. She said it seems an unreasonable and
unnecessary burden to the applicant, staff and the Commission.
Commissioner Hess said without a
conditional use process there is no way to know the impact of the architectural
feature. The CUP process happens so the Commission
can determine if there is an impact.
City Planner McKibben said when
conditions 1-8 apply the applicant does not have to go through a CUP process,
as it doesn’t have any impacts to cause worry.
Chair Chesley said although the Commission doesn’t have any bearing over
costs, if it was felt the impact was minor the City Manager could waive any CUP
fees. The definition of a floor area and
triggers of the 8,000 sq. ft. does not provide a mechanism to go around
it. There is no definition of what an
exterior architectural feature is. The
code is clear when the floor area is increased you must go through the
CUP. The applicant then presents their
City Planner McKibben noted part of
the cost is to pay for staff time, evaluations and public hearings. The work has to be done whether it is paid
for or not, so waiving the fee would not benefit the city. She added that is was unreasonable to require
a CUP to add a covered entryway that is not adding to the retail space.
Chair Chesley said he understood it
may be unreasonable, but there is no mechanism in the code that allows the Commission
to circumvent the process. City Planner
McKibben said the decision to allow the exterior architectural feature was not
done lightly. There was much time,
consideration and discussion between the City Attorney, City Manager and
herself to arrive at the decision. She
believes if it was improper the City Attorney would have advised of that.
Commissioner Foster asked what the
change in the use of the total area, floor area and building area was. He thought the code asked for floor
area. City Planner McKibben gave
definitions for building area, floor area and footprint. She said the building area throws it into the
CUP process. The total sq. ft. of floor
area for retail and wholesale uses within a single building should not exceed
66,000 sq. ft. and any building with the main use of retail and wholesale shall
not exceed 66,000 sq. ft. footprint area.
Commissioner Foster said we have all the areas and it would be helpful
to have an ordinance that allowed covered porches without an addition of
space. It is a good safe thing to
do. City Planner McKibben said in the
long term scope of things that would be an ideal point. Commissioner Hess said it is a good thing
anytime the large retailer comes before the Commission for conditional
use. The Commission can then extract
concessions that w
City Planner McKibben said Safeway
came to the Commission and their expansion into the rest of the building was
considered. The
Chair Chesley asked for the Commission’s
decision on the action that would be taken.
KRANICH/LEHNER – MOVED TO POSTPONE
TAKING FORMAL ACTION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: YES.
NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben said eaves
are not counted on a footprint, but they are limited to project into a yard no
more than 2 ft. by horizontal plane.
C. Ordinance 06-17, Amending Homer
City Code Amending Sub Section 1.76.010(b) Homer
Advisory
City Planner McKibben
did not have a staff report available.
The intent is for Homer business owners living outside the city limits to
have an opportunity for more participation.
She explained it is for Commission input to the City
HESS/KRANICH - MOVED TO
BRING TO THE FLOOR ORDINANCE 06-17 FOR DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
VOTE: YES.
NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben
asked if other cities on the peninsula have non-resident planning commissioners. Audience member Tom Clark answered they do
not. Chair Chesley asked why the
ordinance was limited to the
City Planner McKibben
answered that the whereas clauses in the ordinance may be helpful. She is not aware of any other city that
allows a non-resident to sit as a Commission member. Chair Chesley referred to the
Commissioner Kranich
disagrees with the proposed ordinance, stating city planning business should be
conducted by city residents. If non-city residents have input there is opportunity
for public input at all phases of decision making. Both residents and non-residents can give
public input, be it a political activist or whomever. That is where non-city residents have their input.
To increase the percentage of non-city residents on Commissions is wrong.
Chair Chesley supports Commissioner
Kranich’s comments and asked the Commission for their thoughts.
Commissioner Connor has mixed
feelings, as she likes an inclusive Commission.
To limit the Commission to city residents limits the point of view. She said all Commissions should have the same
ratio of non-residents. She supports Commissioner
Kranich’s comments in general.
Commissioner Foster,
Hess and Lehner support Commissioner Kranich’s comments. Commissioner Lehner said there is an unusual class
of non-residents that are dependent on the city for water. They are sort of partial residents as they
have a vested interest in what happens in the city. She wishes the annexation covered a larger
area and hates the fact that they broke water sheds. You don’t have a decision about water shed
made by two different groups of people.
She said there may be manipulation of the process that may not be in the
best interest of the city. The city
residents would then have to live with the decisions, whereas the non-residents
would not, creating a potential for strange disconnects with respect to consequences.
Commissioner Hess said city
residents pay a premium for the privilege to live in the city. He said it is a privilege to serve on the Commission.
Commissioner Connor
asked why there should be more non-resident seats on the
City Planner McKibben
explained the
It worries Commissioner
Lehner that non-residents could make decisions and others w
Although the Commission is
opposed to adding non-residents to the
Bringing nonresidents in
from extraterritorial jurisdictions.
Strike whereas lines 33
through 38 as they do not support the rational.
Add to line 52 “and the
Bridge Creek Watershed Protection District”.
Delete last two whereas
clauses.
Seeing a list of other cities
where nonresident Commissioners are allowed and the criteria for membership.
Restrict an additional
nonresident to one of the extraterritorial jurisdictions.
Restrict the at-large
resident to a stakeholder within the city.
Commissioner Lehner
REPORTS
A. Borough Report
Commissioner Foster introduced Tom Clark, Kenai Peninsula
Borough
Chair Chesley thanked Mr. Clark for
his service on the KPB
Commissioner Foster reported KPB Planner
B.
None.
PLANNING DIRECTOR’S REPORT
A.
End
of the Year Report/Statistics
City Planner McKibben reported 2005 was a big year for regular
business. She asked Commissioners for
their expense reports from the
INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS
Items listed under
this agenda item can be HCC meeting minutes, copies of zoning violation letters,
reports and information from other government units.
A. Letter
dated
B. Letter dated
C. Letter
dated
D. Letter
dated
E. Letter
dated
F. Letter
dated
G. Letter
dated
H. Letter
dated
I. Letter
dated
The Commission inquired about GCI’s permit, George Hamm’s
lot and Gregoire’s permit. Commissioner
Kranich noted the yellow Caterp
COMMENTS OF THE AUDIENCE
Members of the audience may address the Commission on any subject. The Chair may prescribe time limits.
Chair Chesley invited Tom Clark
to tell the Commission what happens at the Borough level, as there is a lot of
concern the Borough doesn’t always take into consideration the recommendations
the
Tom Clark answered the Borough doesn’t take the
recommendations into consideration, as the Borough Code is very simple. The Code was written in 1978 and is applied
almost identically in every case throughout the borough, including the
applications within the city. It is a
simple process, and the City of
Chair Chesley asked if part of the Borough Comprehensive
Plan was that the KPB
Tom Clark said Ordinance 06-17 is the most ridiculous thing
he has ever heard. Including BCWPD
residents would be alright, but he advised the Commission to not set it up so a
developer can stack three people through an easy mayor or easy council. Homer is ripe for a massive development of
resort-like activity and it would be very easy for someone with big money to
come in and slide with a Commission like that.
As part owner of a dairy farm in
COMMENTS OF THE COMMISSION
Commissioners may comment on any subject, including requests to staff
and requests for excused absence.
Commissioner Lehner thanked the city for making it possible
to attend the training workshop. She
said the sooner the public has
Commissioner Foster said he is glad Tom Clark came. He sits next to him on the KPB
Commissioner Hess said it is interesting the borough feels they
cannot implement some of the recommendations the city sends to them. It shows how important the subdivision recommendations
are. He is curious to know how the
Commissioner Connor said some of the ordinances introduced
at City
Commissioner Kranich said it was a good meeting tonight
with a good working Commission. He
thanked City Planner McKibben for allowing the Commissioners to attend the
training conference. Mr. Kranich said
tonight’s meeting was time well spent.
He w
Chair Chesley thanked City Planner McKibben for chiming in
and pestering John at the American Planning Association, Alaska Chapter to hold
a training session. Mr. Chesley was so enthused for the brand new people there,
some who had only served one meeting. He
enjoyed the public process, part two. Chair Chesley thanked Deputy City Clerk
Johnson for her service to the Commission.
He said it was a great meeting.
The Commission’s job is to grapple and wrestle with issues. He encouraged City Planner McKibben to not
take his questions personally and he would expect the same vice versa. The Commission is learning how to apply and
understand the code. As Conan the
Barbarian said, “That what does not k
ADJOURNMENT
Notice of the next regular or special meeting or work session will
appear on the agenda following “adjournment.”
There being no further business to come before the Commission
the meeting adjourned at
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JO JOHNSON, DEPUTY CITY CLERK
Approved: _________________________