Session 06-08, a Regular Meeting
of the Homer Advisory Planning Commission was called to order by Vice Chair
Hess at
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS CONNOR, KRANICH, PFEIL, HESS, LEHNER,
FOSTER (arrived
at
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS CHESLEY (Excused)
STAFF: CITY PLANNER MCKIBBEN
DEPUTY CITY CLERK JACOBSEN
APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the consent agenda are considered routine and non-controversial by the Planning Commission and are approved in one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless requested by a Planning Commissioner or someone from the public, in which case the item will be moved to the regular and considered in normal sequence.
A. Time Extension Requests
B. Approval of City of
C. KPB Coastal Management Programs Report
D. Commission Excused Absences
1. Dr. Rick Foster
KRANICH/LEHNER MOVED TO ADD ITEM D TO COMMISSION BUSINESS MEMORANDUM TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING TECHNICAL REVIEW OF CHAPTER 8 OF HOMER CODE AND REVIEW OF ITINERANT MERCHANT FEES.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
The amended agenda was approved by consensus of the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commission approves minutes, with any amendments.
A. Approval of
The minutes were amended and approved by consensus of the Commission.
PUBLIC COMMENT, PRESENTATION
The public may speak to the Planning Commission regarding matters not on the agenda. The Chair may prescribe time limits. Public comment on agenda items will be heard at the time the item is considered by the Commission. Presentations approved by the Planning Director, the Chair or the Planning Commission. A Public Works representative may address the Planning Commission.
Bill Smith, citizen, comment in regard to the conditional use permit non conformance status for Safeway. He said he reviewed the letter from City Attorney Tans and pointed out Mr. Tans references an amendment to the City Code that was enacted in 2002, that was enacted in 2004.
In addressing Mr. Tans arguments,
Mr. Smith commented that Mr. Tans says the nonconforming use under HCC 21.64 is
primarily for the benefit of the property owner and confirms the property owner
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Vice Chair Hess thanked Mr. Smith for his comments.
Asia Freeman and Mike Yourkowski
from the Public Arts Committee (PAC) thanked the Commission for considering
their resolution regarding consulting with the PAC before any permits are
issued and construction commences for projects in the
RECONSIDERATION
There were no items for reconsideration.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
The Commission conducts Public hearings by hearing a staff report, hearing public testimony and then acting on the Public Hearing items. The Commission may question the public.
A. Staff Report PL 06-31
Ordinance 06-20(A) An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Homer,
Alaska, Amending the Homer City Zoning Map to Rezone to a Gateway Business
District (A SUB DISTRICT OF THE
CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT) Portions of Rural Residential (RR) and
Portions of Urban Residential (UR) Zoning Districts Fronting on the Sterling
Highway West H
City Planner McKibben summarized the staff report and read the following staff recommendations:
· Staff recommends that the Commission consider public comments, staff recommendations and make a recommendation to Council.
· Staff recommends amending boundaries to include the Woodside area as identified in exhibit C.
· Staff further recommends the Planning Commission not recommend approval of the proposed ordinance and adopt findings supporting this.
· Staff recommends that the Commission recommend that further consideration of the ordinance be deferred until work is completed on the Scenic Gateway.
·
Should the Commission decide to recommend
approval of the proposed ordinance staff recommends that it be with the
recommendation to amend the permitted and conditional uses and structures
allowed within the proposed sub district as addressed in a separate staff
report. Should the Commission choose to
recommend approval of this proposed ordinance the Commission w
She reminded the Commission that the direction from the Council was that they hold two public hearings on this item, so no action is required tonight by the Commission.
Dr. B
John Fenske, City
resident, commented that he supports doing something with the area between the
Bidarka and West H
Gary Hinkle
stated he is a property owner in the area, but does not and has not resided in
Homer. He commented that previously when
he spoke, he did not come here to tell the City how to develop. After his comments he was soundly criticized
and it wasn’t appreciated that he came here telling Homer how to build.[1] Mr. Hinkle stated he has been the owner of
the property at the corner of
Having clarified
that increasing the value is not the reason for rezoning, Mr. Hinkle stated
reasons he believes the zoning should change.
The video that was shown at the last meeting shows what develops toward
good planning and what creates undesirable communities. Mr. Hinkle commented that the video screamed
that zoning, as it has been practiced in Homer, is developing the wrong kind of
community and changing the zoning to commercial would develop the right kind of
community. Mr. Hinkle explained that
zoning needs to be in compliance with the market demand. If you try to force real estate to try to be
developed in a way that is not consistent with the market, you end up with
undesirable development because you end up with forced development, like a
double wooden fence and houses against the highway. He further explained a result that people who
own the land may do a low value job of developing, which takes away from the
long term development of the land.
Zoning should work toward having the land in a use that is compatible
with the market, then there w
When asked how he felt about a district that would encompass not only commercial uses but some mixed uses in a more up to date zoning district, Mr. Hinkle responded in favor of the idea. He referenced the area behind Safeway in Soldotna where houses were transitioned into businesses, and nice commercial buildings were added. He stated that he is unsure whether it would comply with the proximity of the highway, but it could work well.
Public Works
Director Meyer arrived at
B
Emmitt Trimble, a property tax
payer in the City, spoke in support of both proposals. Because of the question of changing the
zoning to CBD and some being resistant to the concept, he asked what is onerous
of the CBD. If there is a problem with
that as a zoning classification and the uses within, then it is a problem for
the rest of the community that is currently zoned CBD. He understands there is now the possibility
of restricting either the existing district or the new districts to eliminate
certain aspects, like mobile home parks, car dealerships and things of that
nature. If it can be identified that
there is something onerous about the allowed uses in the CBD, then he would be
in support of some modification of the zoning district. He is strongly in support of the logical
expansion of the CBD that was addressed in the Comprehensive Plan as
potentially the next location to expand up to West H
B
John W
City Planner McKibben brought the Commissions attention to the laydown items from Dick Synhorst and Christopher Story addressing this particular issue.
Vice Chair Hess closed the public
hearing and advised the group that there w
No action was taken by the Commission at this time.
B. Staff Report PL 06-20, Ordinance 06-12, Of the City Council of the City of Homer, Alaska Amending Homer City Code 21.48 Central Business District CBD by Deleting Some Allowed Uses.[2]
City Planner McKibben pointed out
that this ordinance would propose to remove the uses of mobile home parks, mini
storage and mobile homes from the CBD if it were expanded toward West H
· Any retail businesses with the principal activity of sale of merchandise and services in an enclosed building.
· Parking Lots and Parking Garages.
· Mortuaries.
· Floatplane Tie Up Facilities.
· Building Supplies and Materials.
· Mobile Homes.
· Mini Storage.
· Plumbing, Heating and Appliance Service Shops.
· Printing and Publishing Establishments.
· Self Service Laundry.
· Taxi Operation. Limited to Dispatch.
· Automobile and Vehicle Repair.
From the Conditional Use List:
· Indoor Recreational Use Facilities.
· Mobile Home Parks.
·
· Pipelines, Railroads and Heliports.
· Green House and Garden Supplies.
· Incidental and Custom Manufacture and Repair.
· Drive In Car Washes.
· Outdoor Recreation Facilities.
City Planner McKibben clarified that the reason for this recommendation is that a lot of the uses have traffic associated with them. She tried to leave things that are consistent with the discussion of uses that seem to have a tourism related business or something similar to the discussion that took place at the neighborhood meeting, along the lines of limited commercial, more professional office of financial type institutions, which seems to be more in the spirit of the discussions that have take place.
Ms. McKibben said that timing of
this proposed ordinance and the scenic gateway overlay district process is
confusing to the public and it seems apparent that action on this ordinance
should be delayed until further work is completed on the Gateway. Staff recommends that the Commission consider
public comments, staff recommendations and make a recommendation to
Council. Staff further recommends that
should the CBD be expanded out to West H
There were no public comments.
Vice Chair Hess closed the public hearing.
LEHNER/PFEIL MOVED TO APPROVE
Commissioner Lehner commented that they are getting good information from the public and staff. They haven’t defined the purpose of the Gateway Zone or the outright permitted uses the conditional uses, design criteria or any of the other elements that are critical in adopting a zoning district for the area. She would like to see the process to define this district clearly continue before this ordinance gets adopted.
Commissioner Pfeil comments that he fully supports commercial business, but wants to see it done right. He concurs with Commissioner Lehner’s comments.
Commissioner Kranich said in a way they are under the gun here. He likes a lot of Ms. McKibben’s suggestions on uses to be deleted, but as Ms. Lehner pointed out there are a lot of things that need to be taken into consideration. Mr. Kranich commented that it appears that Council is going to act on this ordinance before the CBD is expanded and eliminate three uses. He would hate to see the Commission rush to try to get some other uses deleted with out having thought it out. He voiced his opinion that it may be better to let this ordinance pass and if the district is expanded, the uses can be modified then. The amended uses need to be thought out before the Gateway district is approved.
Commissioner Connor commented that Council has given the staff direction to create the Gateway District and there is a timeline in place. She feels it would be prudent to see this through rather than doing it piecemeal.
Vice Chair Hess commented his
belief that this came before council to try to make the rezone more
palatable. He agrees with Commissioner
Kranich in that even if this ordinance goes through, he doesn’t see that it w
There was brief discussion that comments they would like to forward to the Council are:
· The cart is ahead of the horse in that this ordinance amends a use in a zone that isn’t there.
· It seems that they are out of sequence with what is trying to be accomplished.
·
This rezone is already causing confusion as to
what exactly is going on and if this is adopted, it w
There was discussion of an amendment to the motion the floor.
VOTE: YES: LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS
NO: PFEIL, CONNOR
Motion failed for lack of a majority.
LEHNER/PFEIL MOVED THAT THEY RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL NOT ADOPT ORDINANCE 06-12 AS PRESENTED.
There was brief discussion that a separate action is taken to have staff prepare a supporting memorandum.
VOTE: YES: PFEIL, CONNOR, HESS, KRANICH, LEHNER
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben recommended the Commission make a motion to request that staff do a memorandum to accompany the motion that would explain some things they were discussing about how it adds to the confusion with the process already in place, the cart ahead of the horse and lack of time to fully evaluate the uses that are appropriate for the area and some of those thing.
LEHNER/KRANICH WE SO MOVE.
There was no further discussion.
VOTE: YES: CONNOR, LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS, PFEIL
Motion carried.
Vice Chair Hess called for a
short recess at
City Planner McKibben read the staff report into the record.
Commissioner Foster arrived at
Stephen Howell, City resident on
Mr. Howell said that nothing in
staff’s analysis identifies any legitimate current or future use of the
right-of-way as adding to the adequacy or efficiency of the street and road
system. It points out that the road and
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Commissioner Pfeil questioned if the HOA has the authority to do that. Mr. Howell replied that the park land belongs to the HOA. He is unsure of the status whether it is publicly accessible lands or private lands held by the HOA and not publicly accessible. In either case the road doesn’t provide any kind of public service down into the lands.
Commissioner Connor questioned
who owns the park land. Mr. Howell
responded that it is the Mountain View HOA.
He said it is dedicated as park land through the Borough. Ms. Connor commented that the Henwood’s
letter in their packet protests the vacation and one reason is because they had
done a preliminary plat where the surveyor continued
Mr. Howell referenced the
Henwood’s letter reason number five “It would seem unwise to lock up this kind
of property that would create more taxes when developed.” He suggested that it does not lock up land
for development, it just does not have the access to be developed in the same
way that others do. There was discussion
whether the Henwood property is land locked and it was pointed out that there
is access from the
Commissioner Kranich asked if the
park area is for public use or private use and how wide the right-of-way is for
City Planner McKibben commented
that if the park is owned by the HOA for private use, those who are not part of
the HOA do not have the right to use the property. The justification for maintaining
There was further discussion
regarding the location of the right-of-way and the topography of the land. It was pointed out that the KHLT has been
working with property owners adjacent to their land to try and secure an access
from the
Gary Nelson, City resident,
stated that the Department of Natural Resources tries very hard to require
alternate access when people are vacating rights-of-way to make sure that where
it is needed, it is provided. He
believes that KHLT does a lot of good things, but thinks this action gives them
a black eye because they are effectively blocking what was planned
historically.
Vice Chair Hess asked Mr. Nelson
how the KHLT property would provide a right-of-way on their parcel, since
There were no more public comments and Vice Chair Hess closed the public hearing.
LEHNER/KRANICH MOVED THAT SHE HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
Commissioner Lehner explained that she is a member of the Mountain Park HOA. She lives outside the notification area, but in the subdivision.
Vice Chair Hess concurred with Ms. Lehner and as part of the HOA she has partial ownership in the park parcels and directly affected by the vacation.
VOTE: YES: HESS, FOSTER, CONNOR, PFEIL, KRANICH
Motion carried.
Commissioner Lehner left the table.
FOSTER/KRANICH MOVED THAT HE HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
Commissioner Foster commented that he was sitting on the KHLT board when the property was donated and was party to discussion with neighboring property owners and discussion of access. He clarified that he is no longer on the board.
VOTE: NO: KRANICH, PFEIL, HESS, CONNOR
Motion failed.
CONNOR/PFEIL MOVED TO ADOPT
1. Vacating the right
of way is contrary to the stated purpose of the Kenai Peninsula Borough Code,
Purpose, to promote an adequate and
efficient street and road system.
2. Vacating the ROW is
contrary to 20.28.150. Vehicular access provision. Equal or superior access is
not being provided.
City Planner McKibben clarified for the Commission that the staff report recommends denial of the right-of-way vacation.
Commissioner Connor said she would like to see documents for the KHLT conservation easement and know more about the agreement between KHLT and the landowners.
Commissioner Foster said that the people who donated the property did not want the upper part of the bench developed, but agreed to one house on the property. Dr. Foster recalled that they looked at access through the Kilcher property to the left. There is a trail that goes through the Kilcher property, up along the bench and along the flat area. They looked at that trail as the access. He is unsure of the current status; this was over a year ago.
Vice Chair Hess commented, for the benefit of the applicant, that vacations of rights-of-way are serious because it is public property. A vacation is basically taking public property and putting it in private hands. It is a situation that is not taken lightly, so the Commission needs be clear on the issues regarding the vacation.
Commissioner Foster commented
that it is one issue because alternate access is not proven. If it is a concern regarding the Henwood
property, there is access through
Vice Chair Hess referred to Mr. Nelson’s comments and wants to ensure whether the Henwood property is accessible through this right-of-way in any shape or form.
KRANICH/FOSTER MOVED TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL THEY RECEIVE A COPY OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THE KHLT PROPERTY.
There was brief comment that the information would be valuable for their further deliberations. Request was made that the Henwoods be contacted for their input and confirmation on whether the park land designation can be changed.
VOTE: YES: PFEIL, CONNOR, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER.
Motion carried.
D.
Staff
City Planner McKibben read the staff report.
Roger Imhoff stated that he is available to answer questions.
There were no public comments. Vice Chair Hess closed the public hearing.
FOSTER/PFEIL MOVED TO ACCEPT STAFF REPORT PL06-26 WITH STAFF FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
Staff
Recommendation:
Planning Commission recommend approval of
the Section Line Easement vacation as presented.
Commissioner Lehner advised the
Commission of an ex parte communication on March 26th before she
knew it was going to be before the Commission.
She reported that
Commissioner Connor said
Commissioner Kranich commented
that he does not see a problem with this.
In a way he views the approval as a way of helping a property owner who,
through their goodw
Vice Chair Hess commented that there isn’t any consistency in the size of the pedestrian easements and recommended the Commission review that in the future.
Commissioner Connor expressed her concern of whether this vacation serves the public good. Discussion ensued that superior access had been dedicated and previously it was discussed that when the new access was established this one would be vacated. Mr. Neal confirmed that there had been no changes in the accesses since the Commission approved his preliminary plat.
VOTE: YES: PFEIL, CONNOR, HESS, KRANICH, FOSTER, LEHNER
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben read the staff report. City Planner McKibben reminded the Commission that approval of a variance requires five yes votes and findings of the Commission. She asked for a short break to confirm with the Policy and Procedures Manual.
Vice Chair Hess called for a recess
at
City Planner McKibben confirmed that her previous statement regarding the required vote was correct.
Commissioner Connor reported that Mr. Stewart had contacted her before he filed the variance. She said their discussion was in par with the information in the staff report.
Charlie Stewart, applicant and
owner of
Commissioner Foster confirmed with the applicant that when he bought the house from the Tulin’s that the foundation was already in place and questioned whether there was any information as to whether the house impedes the line of sight. Mr. Stewart said the foundation was in place along with the well, septic and driveway. City Planner McKibben commented she thought they had determined there were no issues with the line of sight, although there was nothing in the staff report to confirm that. She pointed out that the house sits twenty feet from the roadbed.
There was no further public comment. Vice Chair Hess closed the public hearing.
There was discussion regarding wording of a motion and which findings and which recommendations/findings to accept.
FOSTER/KRANICH MOVED TO APPROVE STAFF REPORT 06-23 WITHOUT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
Commissioner Foster said he had done extensive research on this and explained that had this gone to the Borough prior to annexation, it would likely have been approved for an exception to the 20 foot setback since the structure (the foundation) was already in place when Mr. Stewart purchased it. Dr. Foster said the City does not have that allowance, but for all intent and purpose they are not going to move the foundation.
Vice Chair Hess disagreed and commented that does not meet the criteria for a variance. Mr. Hess read an excerpt from Lee Sharp,
One of the ways to immediately tell if a variance
request is valid is to ask yourself if you would be able to grant the variance
before the structure was built. A variance may only be granted if there is a
peculiarity of the physical condition of the land which distinguishes it from
other land in a general area. A
condition that is peculiar to the owner is not relevant. Personal hardships, no matter how compelling
and how far from beyond the control of the individual applicant, do not provide
sufficient grounds for granting a variance.
Mr. Hess said that if they grant this variance, it can be challenged.
There was discussion if it could
be considered a non conforming use.
FOSTER/LEHNER MOVED TO POSTPONE UNTIL THEY COULD GET A LEGAL OPINION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.
Discussion ensued regarding the differing opinions of the Commission. It was clarified that a non conforming status would not apply and that the applicant has another avenue of recourse with the person he purchased the property from. Point was made that leaving the structure in place is in the best interest of the community as it is in the Bridge Creek Watershed District.
VOTE: YES: LEHNER, HESS, FOSTER, CONNOR, PFEIL, KRANICH
Motion carried.
PLAT CONSIDERATIONS
The Commission hears a report from staff, testimony from applicants and the public. The Commission may ask questions of staff, applicants and the public.
A.
Staff
City Planner McKibben read the staff report.
LEHNER/KRANICH MOVED THAT SHE HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
Commissioner Lehner reiterated that she is a member of the Mountain Park HOA and the plat assumes the vacation, an action postponed in an earlier action, and if she was concerned about the vacation, she would be concerned about this.
City Planner McKibben said if the vacation is not granted, she assumes the property line would be along the right-of-way.
City Planner McKibben commented this does not involve the property within the HOA. It involves private property and a portion of a right-of-way which belongs to the public.
VOTE: NO: KRANICH, FOSTER, PFEIL, HESS, CONNOR
Motion failed.
PFEIL/CONNOR MOVED TO ACCEPT
Planning Commission
recommend approval of the preliminary plat with the following comments:
1. Correct the city
limits depicted in the vicinity map.
There was no public comment.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: YES: FOSTER, CONNOR, PFEIL, LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben read the staff report.
Roger Imhoff, project surveyor, commented that he feels at some point, drainage easements should be further defined in the code. There are drainage easements that protect drainages and there are drainages that the City should be concerned about keeping open, but this isn’t one of them. Mr. Imhoff explained that this is a wooded area and the property owners wouldn’t want someone coming on to their private property and digging a bigger ditch than what is there already. He said the drainage easement came off the parent plat. There were no widths on in, it was just sketched in, so he carried it forward.
Commissioner Kranich asked if
building st
LEHNER/KRANICH MOVED TO APPROVE
Planning Commission recommend approval and
preliminary plat with the following comments:
1. Note the width of
the drainage easement.
Commissioner Kranich noted a discrepancy and asked for clarification on water/sewer. It was confirmed that the lot is served by City water and sewer.
There was brief discussion of noting the width of the drainage.
VOTE: YES: PFEIL, CONNOR, LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben read the
staff report. She advised the Commission
that Public Works Director Meyer asked her to relay that this property is in an
LID area and three of the lots w
Vice Chair Hess pointed out that there were no comments noted from the Fire Chief in the staff report. He contacted Planning Technician Engebretsen who reported that there was an email from Fire Chief Painter that he had no comments on the plat.
Mr. Nelson commented that he was in attendance to answer any questions. He stated he is aware of subdivisions that have been approved with five foot pedestrian easements and requested that the 10 foot pedestrian easement width be reduced to 8 feet. Mr. Nelson believes that width would adequately accommodate people passing each other on the path.
Commissioner Foster made comment that when other subdivisions north of the school came before them, concern was raised by a number of neighbors, including the principle of the school, that there was a significant amount of flooding that came from the subdivision potentially from those lots. He asked Mr. Nelson if he is aware of the problem there.
Mr. Nelson approached the map. He explained that City Planner McKibben has mentioned this issue to him earlier so he drove by the area. He remembered that while he was out surveying that along the north boundary of lot 11A there is a significant drainage ditch that was dug in the 1970’s. At the time it was about three to four feet deep and three to four feet wide, and he believes it drains out to the road and the road has a ditch along it with culverts. Mr. Nelson explained that what could be happening is the water comes out of a ditch and daylights[3]. He explained that it looked to him that the water was being channeled a portion of the way down, but he did not follow it all the way.
Commissioner Foster commented that the sheet surface water caused a lot of damage to the school, which is an area that is subject to inundation, flooding and storm water. It is not identified on the plat and Dr. Foster asked Mr. Nelson why it is not identified if it was a historic problem to the school and if subdividing into five lots with the amount of impervious coverage would be mitigated so it won’t further exasperate the current problem.
Mr. Nelson restated Commissioner
Foster’s comment that the school has historically had a flooding problem. Commissioner Foster clarified that they had a
flooding problem from those lots drop down to the school. Mr. Nelson rebutted that the lots are
basically undeveloped at this time.
There is a house on lot 11 that has been there for many, many years, but
there has been no development activity on those lots, there is natural
vegetation out there, the forest has been removed. Mr. Nelson suggested that perhaps the school
needs to build an interceptor ditch around their perimeter if they are having
problems with sheet water. There is no
channel out there, there is sheet water.
He explained what that means is as it rains the water evenly moves down
h
CONNOR/KRANICH MOVED TO ACCEPT
Staff Recommendations:
Commissioner Conner expressed her concern that lot 10 is shown to be about 80% wetland and lot 11 is shown as 60% wetlands and questioned if there is a Borough policy on flag lots. She said that Borough Code states that lots shall not be less than 60 feet wide on the building setback line. Mr. Nelson responded that the Borough does enforce that but it does not apply to the panhandles of the flag lots.
Commissioner Foster asked if the pedestrian easement were accepted at 8 or 10 feet if it would make any of the lots unbuildable. Mr. Nelson replied that it would not. He was trying to lookout for the property owners rights for the future for use of their land. Mr. Nelson clarified that he was asked by the owners to do this specific design of the lots. Dr. Foster asked if the lot lines would have to be reconfigured should these lots be deemed as wetlands. Mr. Nelson responded that wetlands jurisdiction is the Corps of Engineers responsibility and he does know what their current policy is. He believes it is case by case application basis.
Commissioner Kranich commented
that the Staff Recommendation 1 asks that the panhandle for
Commissioner Pfeil commented that he doesn’t like to see lots chopped up this small.
Commissioner Lehner said she wished they had more wetlands information before making a decision.
City Planner McKibben stated that it is important to remember that the wetlands maps are done on a very large scale. The lines are very wide. They can not accurately determine the actual location or extent of the coverage of the lot because of the scale in which the mapping is done. All the mapping is used for is to show that it appears that there are wetlands in the area. They are working to assign functions, but determining if the lots are developable has to be done by a Corps determination.
Ms. Lehner said that a
determination can’t be done this time of year.
She commented that they are not expensive or time consuming, but also
that the City does not require one. She
said it is the health, safety and general welfare issue[4]. It brings up the question of what problems
are we putting on the publics back by shifting drainage issues to Public Works
and the
City Planner McKibben asked if they intended to address the pedestrian easement. Commissioner Pfeil responded that they moved to accept the staff report.
VOTE: YES: PFEIL, HESS, KRANICH
NO: CONNOR, FOSTER, LEHNER.
Motion failed for lack of a majority.
City Planner McKibben read the staff report. She added a suggested addition that was not in the staff report which is a plat note that says “This subdivision may contain wetlands; property owner should contact the Army Corps of Engineer prior to any onsite development or construction activity to obtain the most current wetland designation, if any.”
Gary Nelson, project surveyor, advised the Commission that he and the property owner are available for questions.
Commissioner Foster asked if they had any problem with the recommendations that the City has requested. They applicant and their representative responded the do not.
FOSTER/LEHNER MOVED THAT THEY
APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT
There was no discussion.
VOTE: YES: CONNOR, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER, PFEIL
NO: LEHNER
COMMISSION BUSINESS
The Commission hears a report from staff, testimony from applicants and the public. Commission business includes resolutions, ordinances, zoning issues, requests for consideration and other issues as needed. The Commission may ask question s of staff, applicants, and the public.
A.
Staff
City Planner McKibben reviewed
the staff report. She commented that it
would be relatively easy to bring the PAC in for conditional use permits. Zoning permits have more time constraints and
the PAC is w
PFEIL/KRANICH MOVED TO ACCEPT STAFF REPORT 06-32.
Commissioner Kranich commented that the way resolution is presented, it is asking for something outside of what the Committee was established for. The PAC was established strictly to review things for municipal buildings and structures and the resolution broadens it into the private sector. It would take a code change to accomplish that. He does not support the resolution.
There was discussion about how to proceed.
VOTE: NO: LEHNER, HESS, FOSTER, CONNOR, PFEIL, KRANICH
Motion failed.
KRANICH/PFEIL MOVED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTS THAT PLANNING STAFF SEND A MEMORANDUM TO THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE REQUESTING THAT PRIOR TO SUPPORTING THE REQUESTS OF THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE THEY REQUEST THE COUNCIL TO INCLUDE THE EVALUATION OF PRIVATE FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE’S PERVUE.
Commissioner Kranich suggested it
should apply to
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
FOSTER/PFEIL MOVED TO POSTPONE ACTION ON STAFF REPORT PL06-10 TO A SPECIAL MEETING.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
C. Interpretation of Zoning Code Provisions Applicable to Addition of Exterior Architectural Features to Nonconforming Structures.
LEHNER/PFEIL MOVED TO POSTPONE ACTION ON ITEM C TO THE SAME SPECIAL MEETING.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
C. Technical review of HCC Chapter 8 and a Review Itinerant Merchant and Mobile Food Licensees
The Commission briefly discussed the need for a technical review for these sections of code.
The Commission agreed to add this to their next agenda for further discussion and action.
REPORTS
A. Borough Report
Commissioner Foster had no report.
PLANNING DIRECTOR’S REPORT
The Commission agreed to schedule
their special meeting on
INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS
Items listed under this agenda item can be HCC meeting minutes, copies of zoning violation letters, reports and information from other government units.
A. “Affordability Amidst Affluence,” Planning Magazine, March 2006
B. Letter dated
C. Letter dated
D. Letter dated
E. Letter dated
F. Letter dated
G. Letter dated
H. Letter dated
I. April 2006 Clerk’s Calendar
COMMENTS OF THE AUDIENCE
Members of the audience may address the Commission on any subject. The Chair may prescribe time limits.
Gary Nelson thanked the
Commission and said they are doing a real tough job. He commented about the Forest Glen action
tonight. Mr. Nelson said there was once
a very beautiful forest there in that whole area, including where the school
was built. He explained that the school
was built over a drainage, and he was involved in the project. He said that it was a huge dewatering effort
there and it is interesting that there is no ditching around the perimeter to
collect waters and deal with the problem they have. The lots around it are going to be built
on. There w
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COMMENTS OF THE COMMISSION
Commissioners my comment on any subject, including staff reports and requests for excused absence.
Commissioner Foster commented
that the Road Policy to Science Workshop is going on and they had an exciting
and successful day today and thinks they w
Commissioner Lehner commented that she had referenced the Borough Code, although not explicitly, with regard to health, safety and general welfare. Because of the issue that there are so many wetlands and there is not very much information on how the wetlands are functioning, they are creating problems the tax payers and school district are going to have to pay for. She pointed out that those are reasons.
There was discussion as to how to deal with the findings.
LEHNER/FOSTER MOVED TO RECONSIDER.
City Planner McKibben clarified it was reconsideration of the Forest Glen Subdivision, Ingle Replat Preliminary Plat.
VOTE: YES: PFEIL, CONNOR, HESS, KRANICH, FOSTER, LEHNER
Motion carried.
Commissioner Foster reiterated his comments:
·
The elementary school is located downh
· The area has been subject to historic flooding onto the school down below.
Commissioner Lehner reiterated her comments:
· The wetlands information the City has and the Borough Code authorizes the Commission to request wetland information.
· A very high percentage of the lots are wetland and breaking them up into smaller lots is going to exacerbate what ever flooding runoff problems already exist.
·
The consequences are likely to be borne by the
tax payers, because the water w
Commissioner Lehner continued that the Commission’s charge in approving plats, in addition to ensuring their accuracy is that they are protecting the health, safety and general welfare.
Commissioner Foster suggested a finding that would recommend mitigation for the flooding as something to accept prior to subdividing these lots. Commissioner Lehner stated that the Commission would welcome discussion of mitigation options or approaches in concert with subdividing these lots.
Vice Chair Hess commented he didn’t feel the Commission is doing a very good job with the findings.
Commissioner Kranich said he
voted yes on the replat. In his
reasoning he didn’t discount the high percentage of wetlands, but he recognized
that presumably the plat w
Vice Chair Hess commented that he
agrees with Mr. Kranich regarding the scrutiny the Corps w
Commissioner Lehner disagrees
because going in as an individual land owner to f
Commissioner Foster expressed that he agrees with both sides of the argument, pointing out that the subdivision code does not allow them much leeway in these cases. His concern is the school.
Vice Chair Hess said it is hard for him to see that the development on these lots is going cause a severe flooding problem at the school.
Discussion ensued regarding previous flooding at the school and the other subdivisions coming in. The question was raised as to why they are singling out this one property owner’s subdivision. Comment was made that it is because of the high percentage of wetland so close to the school. Question was raised as to what point do they draw the line for new subdivisions in the area. The discussion continued, reiterating points that had previously been made.
Commissioner Lehner added that in previous discussions of the larger subdivision recently approved in the area, there had been open discussion with the property owner regarding the wetland issues. There hasn’t been that discussion in this case but now the property owner is aware that this is an issue and can take steps to deal with it and come back with proposed solutions.
Commissioner Foster asked whether a subdivision agreement would apply since there are five lots. City Planner McKibben said it would, but typically in cases where there is already a road and water/sewer connections, the requirement is waived.
FOSTER/PFEIL MOVED TO POSTPONE ACTION.
There was no further discussion.
VOTE: YES: CONNOR, LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER, PFEIL
Motion carried.
Vice Chair Hess commented briefly that House B
ADJOURNMENT
Notice of the next regular or special meeting will appear on the agenda following “adjournment”.
There being no further business
to come before the Commission the meeting adjourned at
MELISSA JACOBSEN, DEPUTY CITY CLERK
Approved:
[1] Clerk’s note: Mr. Hinkle is referring to in his comments is the Gateway District Neighborhood Meeting that was held on March 21st.
[2] Clerk’s
Note: Title should include:
[3] Daylights- Where water in the ditch turns into a flat area where the water spreads and runs over the land.
[4]
Referring to
[5] Commissioner Lehner was referring to permit applicants.