Session 07-04, a Regular Meeting
of the Homer Advisory Planning Commission was called to order by Chair Kranich
at
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS CHESLEY, KRANICH, MINSCH, SCHEER, ZAK,
FOSTER (arrived
at
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER HESS
STAFF:
DEPUTY
PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR MEYER[1]
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Agenda was approved by consensus of the Commission.
PUBLIC COMMENT
The public may speak to the Planning Commission
regarding matters not scheduled for public hearing. (3 minute time limit) Presentations approved by the Planning
Director, the Chair, or the Planning Commission. A Public Works representative
may address the Planning Commission.
There were no public comments.
RECONSIDERATION
There were no items for reconsideration.
ADOPTION OF CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the consent agenda are considered
routine and non-controversial by the Planning Commission and are approved in
one motion. There will be no separate
discussion of these items unless requested by a Planning Commissioner or
someone from the public, in which case the item will be moved to the regular agenda
and considered in normal sequence.
1. Approval of Minutes of
2. Time Extension Requests
3. Approval
of City of
4. KPB Coastal Management Program Reports
5. Commissioner Excused Absences
a. Rick Foster
b. Bruce Hess
Commissioner Zak requested discussion of the minutes. Minute’s approval was placed as item A under
new business.
PRESENTATIONS
Presentations approved by the Planning Director, the
Chair, or the Planning Commission. A Public Works representative may address
the Planning Commission
REPORTS
A. Borough Report
B.
C. Planning Director’s Report
City Planner McKibben advised the
Commission that there is a laydown item regarding bias for dual City and
Borough Planning Commissioners. She
advised the Commission that the next Comprehensive Plan Citizens Advisory
Committee meeting is scheduled for March 22 from
PUBLIC HEARINGS
The Commission conducts Public Hearings by hearing a
staff report, hearing public testimony and then acting on the Public Hearing
items. (3 minute time limit) The Commission may question the public. Once the public hearing is closed the
Commission cannot hear additional comments on the topic.
There were no public hearing scheduled.
PLAT CONSIDERATION
The
Commission hears a report from staff, testimony from applicants and the
public. The Commission may ask questions
of staff, applicants and the public. The Commission will accept testimony or a
presentation on agenda items that involve an applicant.
(Continued)
Commissioner Zak was determined to have a conflict of interest regarding this agenda item at the February 21 meeting. Commissioner Zak left the table.
Commissioner Chesley stated that he had reviewed the minutes from the February 21 meeting and is prepared to participate.
The motion on the floor, postponed from the February 21 meeting is:
HESS/MINSCH I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A MOTION TO ACCEPT
Planning Commission forward to the
Planning Commission
recommend denial of the plat waiver because it does not meet the intent of KPB
Code 20.040.010.
City Planner McKibben advised the
Commission that the staff report has not changed since the meeting on the 21st. The staff recommendation is st
Public Works Director Meyer and
the Commission discussed driveway issues.
Chair Kranich noted that the access being utilized at this point and
time emanates from a driveway off of
Commissioner Chesley cited
It was questioned whether a driveway permit addresses shared driveways. Mr. Meyer commented that there is nothing in the driveway permit application that would stipulate whether it would be a shared driveway, however there would likely be a common shared driveway agreement attached. There may also be a plat where one property owner grants an easement to serve the other.
Another definition of driveway
was cited from
Question was raised whether there is a policy for opening a cul-de-sac to extend public access through it. Mr. Meyer responded that he is not aware of any regulation in code or in the design criteria manual. Discussion in the past has raised the idea that perhaps the Borough has some requirement. Commissioner Chesley added that he had talked to Max Best, KPB Planning Director, who said there is no specific provision or formula that he was aware of to vacate a cul-de-sac.
Commissioner Chesley further
cited 11.08.040(b) It is understood by the
applicant that control of the location, construction and maintenance of
driveways is under the supervision of the City at all times and that in
granting such permit the City waives none of its powers or rights to direct the
removal, relocation, and/or proper maintenance in the future of any driveway
within the right-of-way of the City roads, streets, or trails. Any permit
granted will be construed as regulatory and not contractual. Such permits are
revocable by the City whenever the use and presence of a driveway or approach
unduly interferes with the required use of that portion of the right-of-way
occupied by the driveway or constitutes a hazard to traffic. He noted that just because
a driveway permit is issued, it doesn’t give a property owner any rights, the
City still has jurisdiction.
Public Works Director commented that this
subdivision was platted with an access easement that connected many properties
and then ran out to the cul-de-sac that is the legal access to the
property. He would find it difficult to
tell an applicant that the City can’t issue a driveway permit because he
doesn’t agree with the development, when there is legal, platted access that
has been recorded. Mr. Meyer said
consideration would be give to the definitions, location, safety issues and the
like. He said that when a plat is
approved and there is an access easement platted, he has some obligation to
provide the driveway permit as long at it is safe and a reasonable thing to
do.
Commissioner Chesley noted Mr. Meyer’s
comment that the driveway easement is the legal access, but the legal access
created by the previous plat waiver action was the beach. It has been expressed that the driveway is
the practical access. Mr. Meyer
responded that the driveway is a platted easement dedicated for access. From that perspective a person has a legal
right to use the access.
Chair Kranich commented that his
understanding of the easement document is that it’s specific as to the parcels
and properties that can utilize the easement for access.
Commissioner Chesley recommended the Commission discuss driveway permits as an agenda item in the near future.
It was questioned whether
Chair Kranich referred to the
Borough Planning Commission minutes of
·
· The minutes reflect that Mr. Bullock commented regarding the width of the easement that it was 60 feet wide from the centerline for a total of 120 feet. The easement document says 100 feet from the center line.
· The minutes reflect that Mr. Bullock understood that there were some problems with the road but it was never intended to provide access to numerous property owners, only a handful of people who have access to the road.
·
The minutes reflect that Mr. Bullock commented
that
Chair Kranich said Mr. Bullock’s comments seem very contradictory to platting process and definitions and understanding of cul-de-sacs being closed.
Public Works Director Meyer commented that he can’t speak to the intent at the time, but his general impression is that there isn’t much chance that the road will be extended any further. It is steep, and in his opinion from an economic perspective a road couldn’t be built to meet City standards along the alignment.
Comment was made in reference to the Borough Planning Department’s staff recommendations that they have prepared in advance of this action coming before them. One of the five criteria that has to be met in order to meet the plat waiver requirements is that the subdivision does not require a variance (exception from the subdivision regulations). In this case, the applicant has to ask for an exception to the three to one depth to width ratio. Based on that information, this platting action does not meet the requirement.
In addition another condition is that a dedication or vacation of public right-of-way is not involved or required and Borough staff found that Borough Code 20.20.030 requires a reasonable means of ingress be provided to surrounding acreage parcels. The owner of two lots north of the plat has provided comments that his only reasonable access is through this subdivision and the dedications in the 1976 plat are not reasonable means of access. A dedication over the existing travel way shown, which is an ATV trail, would be required. A plat waiver cannot dedicate a right-of-way, therefore that condition is not met either.
It was noted that the most important issues for the City include the access issues. The Fire Chief has brought up issues with access.
SCHEER/CHESLEY MOVED TO MODIFY THE STAFF REPORT UNDER
PLATTING WAIVER CONDITIONS THAT CONDITION NUMBER TWO IS NOT SATISFIED ON
Platting
Waiver Conditions.
State law identifies five conditions for a plat waiver
to be granted.
a. This condition is not satisfied.
Commissioner Scheer referenced AS 29.40.040 and KPB Code 20.04.020. His interpretation is that access has to be something that is constructible. He can’t see a logical reason why they would require frontage to a public street or right-of-way if it is something that could not be used. It is obvious that the dedicate rights-of-way are not buildable and they don’t join up with the street system.
Commissioner Minsch cited the staff report comment that Kenai Peninsula Borough Code does not require that the legal access actually be usable or buildable to any standard. City Planner McKibben responded that it her understanding and Public Works Director Meyer also made comments to that affect as well.
VOTE: YES: CHESLEY, SCHEER, KRANICH
NO: MINSCH
Motion fails for lack of majority.
CHESLEY/MINSCH I CALL FOR THE QUESTION ON THE
VOTE: YES: MINSCH, CHESLEY
NO: SCHEER, KRANICH
Motion failed for lack of majority.
There was discussion regarding amending the staff report to include findings prior to the final vote.
CHESLEY/MINSCH MOVED THAT WE
ADOPT A FINDING NUMBER 1 THAT KENAI PENINSULA BOROUGH CODE 20.20.180 REQUIRES
THE DEPTH OF EACH LOT NOT BE MORE THAN THREE TIMES THE WIDTH, 3 TO 1
RATIO. PARCELS TWO, THREE
There was no discussion.
VOTE: YES: MINSCH, KRANICH, CHESLEY, SCHEER
Motion carried.
CHESLEY/SCHEER MOVED TO MAKE A SECOND
FINDING THAT THE
KRANICH/CHESLEY MOVED TO AMEND
THE AMENDMENT TO ADD THAT ACCESS GRANTED BY THE EASEMENT DOCUMENT RECORDED IN
BOOK 284
There was discussion that Chair Kranich’s motion clarifies further, the main body of the finding that the Borough has made in that the owner of two lots north is looking for access through the subdivision and this amendment clearly states that the easement being used for access is limited and couldn’t be considered for the two additional lots. It is an additional point affirming that this plat waiver cannot dedicate a new right-of-way and this condition has not been met.
VOTE (Secondary amendment): YES: KRANICH, CHESLEY, SCHEER, MINSCH
Motion carried.
There was no further discussion on the primary amendment.
VOTE (Primary amendment): YES: CHESLEY, MINSCH, SCHEER, KRANICH
Motion carried.
There was brief discussion clarifying that voting yes support the staff recommendation to recommend denial of this plat waiver.
VOTE (Main motion as amended): YES: MINSCH, SCHEER, CHESLEY, KRANICH
Motion carried.
Commissioner Zak returned to the
table.
Revised
City Planner McKibben summarized the staff report.
There were no comments from the Applicant or the Public.
MINSCH/CHESLEY I WOULD LIKE TO
STAFF COMMENTS/RECOMMENDATIONS:
Planning Commission recommend approval of the
preliminary plat with the following comments:
There was no discussion.
VOTE: YES: MINSCH, SCHEER, CHESLEY, KRANICH, ZAK
Motion carried.
C.
Staff
City Planner McKibben reviewed the staff report.
Beth reviewed staff report.
Leah Handley, applicant, commented that she and Mr. Handley were available to answer questions. She advised the Commission that she had photographs if they would like to review them. The initial plan would be to construct a driveway for the existing house but the situation may arise that Mr. Handley may have some down time because of his arm. In that case they would give access to the second lot via the drive way that is there now.
City Planner McKibben commented
that their preliminary estimate shows the site that would become lot 22A has
enough area to accommodate the added driveway without exceeding the amount of
area that can be developed due to slope constraints.
Mrs. Handley pointed out the locations of the proposed lots and other property features on the aerial photo.
The following points were noted during discussion of this preliminary plat:
· Because the property was annexed, the property owner could apply for non conforming status for their existing property. When they are subdividing it is questionable as to whether the new lot will have to conform to the new standard.
· Establishing non conforming status prior to subdivision may be more appropriate.
· The measurements on the lots are estimates and the request should be made for more accurate measurements from the surveyor.
CHESLEY/MINSCH I WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM
There was discussion regarding the timeframe to act on preliminary plats. The Commission has 49 days from the date of receipt to act on the preliminary plat, so this would need to come back at the March 21st meeting. City Planner McKibben said the applicant can agree to an extension and she will talk to them about it if needed.
Mrs. Handley expressed her concern regarding the amount of the slope and its effect on the buildable area. She noted that at a 30% slope the buildable area is 10% but as the slope from the top of the property decreases, the amount of buildable area should increase.
Commissioner Chesley commented that for slopes from 15 to 30 percent the area used for development should not exceed 25%.
Mrs. Handley said she was not
aware that the slope behind the property going up to
Mrs. Handley commented regarding the Commission making decisions without seeing the property. Commissioner Chesley stated that a licensed, registered surveyor is the most qualified professional to make the determinations that the Commission is looking for to make their decisions. The surveyors are well versed in working with staff in terms of the City’s regulations.
It was noted that the plat presented does not show grades over 20%.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
Commissioner Foster arrived at
Chair Kranich called for a recess
at
Commissioner Scheer stated that he has a conflict of interest.
CHESLEY/FOSTER I’LL
Commissioner Scheer stated that
his firm
VOTE: YES: MINSCH, KRANICH, FOSTER, CHESLEY, ZAK
Motion carried.
Commissioner Scheer left the table.
City Planner McKibben summarized the staff report.
MINSCH/CHESLEY I WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT
Planning
Commission recommend approval of the preliminary plat with the following
comments:
1. Dedicate a 15’ foot utility easement along
Commissioner Minsch questioned if
an enforcement action taking place between the City and the property in
question has any bearing on the platting action. City Planner McKibben said not for a platting
action, perhaps for a CUP or zoning issue.
There was discussion regarding whether the vacation can take place at the same time as the replat. Points of discussion were:
· Vacations of rights-of-way are separate actions that take place through a petition process. This is the vacation of an access easement.
· In the case of a utility easement, the easement vacation can be accomplished on the same plat.
· There is a note on the plat that says 20 foot utility access easement.
· The utility companies comment at the Borough level.
· Three things are happening in this request, Removal of a lot line, which is not a subdivision, vacating the 30 foot access easement which overlays the 20 foot utility access easement and the City is asking for 15 foot utility easement, which they are entitled to ask for in a subdivision action, but not in an action like this. The applicant is not compelled to have to grant the 15 feet to the City.
· The 30 foot access easement is only on this lot. The access on the adjacent lots may have been previously vacated.
·
KBP 20.28.040. Vacation--Definition. A vacation shall be defined for the purpose of this section
as the process in which the right of public use or right of use of a dedicated
street, right-of-way, easement or other public area is terminated.
·
KPB 20.28.050. Application--Petition required. No platted right-of-way or public area may be
vacated, except upon petition by resolution from a municipality in which the
property is located or the owners of the majority of the front feet of land
abutting the right-of-way or public area to be vacated. The petition shall be
filed with the planning commission.
· The petitions are filed with the Borough, who in turn notifies the City.
The concerns posed by the Planning Commission:
· What is the access easement and why would it be vacated.
· Can the vacation be done at the same time as the platting action on the lot line.
· Does the house meet the setback criteria and would it need to be established as non-conforming.
CHESLEY/MINSCH I WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM
There was no discussion.
VOTE: YES: FOSTER, CHESLEY, MINSCH, KRANICH
NO: ZAK
Motion carried.
PENDING BUSINESS
A.
Staff
MINSCH/CHESLEY MOVED TO SUSPEND
THE RULES
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
The Commission hears a report from staff. Commission business includes resolutions,
ordinances, zoning issues, requests for reconsideration and other issues as
needed. The Commission may ask
questions of staff, applicants, and the public. Any items brought before the
commission for discussion are on the floor for discussion following
introduction of the item. The Commission
will accept testimony or a presentation on agenda items that involve an
applicant (such as acceptance of a nonconformity).
A. Minutes
Commissioner Zak requested that
the Clerk review the recording regarding the Refuge Shelter action,
specifically the discussion opposing the
With regard to his comments about the Country Club Estates Plat Waiver,
Commissioner Zak clarified that he was not referring to lots above the property
requesting the plat waiver. He stated he is referring to people who are doing
development on property below being protected from potential problems from up
above.
Deputy City Clerk Jacobsen said she would review the recording.
MINSCH/ZAK SO MOVED TO POSTPONE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES TO THE
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
MINSCH/FOSTER IN THE INTEREST OF
THE LONG TERM HEALTH OF OUR STAFF I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE
RULES
There were no members of the public in the audience and they agreed to have comments from the Commission.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS
Items listed under this agenda item can be
A. Letter dated
from Dotti Harness, Planning
Technician
B. Letter dated
C. Letter dated
D. Letter dated
Planning Technician
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Members of the audience may address the Commission
on any subject. (3 minute time limit)
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioners may comment on any subject, including
requests to staff and requests for excused absence.
Commissioner Foster commented that he assumes the minutes will be available for the March 26 Borough Planning Commission meeting. City Planner McKibben responded that she will prepare a memo regarding the HAPC decisions and staff has already discussed having the excerpt of the minutes prepared to send to Platting Officer Toll on Monday. Mr. Foster apologized for missing part of the meeting tonight.
Commissioner Chesley commented on KPB 20.12.080 approval of preliminary plats and the 56 day time frame. City Planner McKibben responded with KPB 20.12.050 preliminary plat the City Planning Commission will have 49 days to review the preliminary plat, as is echoed in the HAPC Policies and Procedures Manual. Commissioner Chesley said he would like to have an understanding by their next meeting as there is question regarding preliminary plat approval versus plat approval.
Mr. Chesley said it is great to be back, two of his trips have been cancelled and he is looking forward to working with the Commission. He stated that he would be absent for the March 21st meeting.
Chair Kranich thanked everyone
for studying the issues for tonight. He
reported he and Commissioners Zak, Minsch, Scheer and Foster attended the
Planning Commissioner training in
ADJOURN
Notice of the next regular or special meeting or
work session will appear on the agenda following “adjournment”.
There being no further
business to come before the Commission the meeting adjourned at
MELISSA JACOBSEN, DEPUTY
Approved: