Session 06-27, a Regular Meeting
of the Homer Advisory
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS FOSTER, HESS, KRANICH, MINSCH, ZAK
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER CHESLEY, PFEIL (Both Excused)
STAFF: CITY PLANNER MCKIBBEN
DEPUTY CITY CLERK JACOBSEN
APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND ADOPTION OF CONSENT AGENDA
All
items on the consent agenda are considered routine and non-controversial by the
A. Time Extension Requests
B. Approval of City of
C. KPB Coastal Management Program Reports
D. Commissioner Excused Absences
1. Fred Pfeil
The
agenda was approved by consensus of the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commission approves minutes with any amendments.
A. Approval of
Chair Kranich said he had some grammatical changes and he would give them to the clerk.
MINSCH/HESS MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
There was no further discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT, PRESENTATIONS
The
public may speak to the
A. Rick Foster, Coastal Training Program Coordinator: Erosion Responses for Property Owners
Commissioner Foster, Coastal
Training Program Coordinator for the Kachemak Bay Research Reserve, reviewed
the report on the Erosion Responses for Property Owners Workshop, field trip
and meeting that was held on
RECONSIDERATION
MINSCH/HESS MOVED TO RECONSIDER THE CONTINUATION OF THE DECISION OF CANYON TRAILS PRELIMINARY PLAT TO THE DECEMBER 6 MEETING.
Commissioner Foster commented that he asked for reconsideration because he felt that additional information could have been included that they could have addressed sooner.
VOTE: YES: MINSCH, ZAK, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER
Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
The
Commission conducts Public Hearings by hearing a staff report, hearing public
testimony and then acting on the Public Hearing items. The Chair may prescribe time limits. The Commission may question the public.
City Planner McKibben passed out a revised copy of the draft ordinance and noted that the copy provided does not include the City Attorney’s editing. She read the staff report.
Donald Fell spoke on behalf of
the Kachemak Shellfish Growers and said they support the ordinance as the
changes w
There were no more public comments and Chair Kranich closed the Public Hearing.
FOSTER/HESS MOVED TO ADOPT
City Planner McKibben recommended the following amendment:
·
Lines 45 and 46 amended to read, “Subsection H -
J of Homer City Code 21.52.020 are hereby amended to read as follows:”
HESS/MINSCH MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE CHANGES TO LINE 45 AND 46.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben recommended the following amendment:
·
Add a sentence at line 53 "All other
portions of section 21.52.020 are not affected by this amendment."
HESS/MINSCH MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE ADDITION OF THE ITEM ON LINE 55.
It was clarified that a sentence is being added between lines 52 and 55 as suggested by the City Attorney.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben recommended the following amendment referencing the laydown item page 3 of 4:
·
Line 77 letter P should be letter O.
HESS/MINSCH MOVED WE AMEND LINE
ITEM 77 OF THE LAYDOWN CHANGING P TO O.
There was no further discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben recommended the following amendment:
·
Item P would be amended to read “Other similar
uses, as determined by the Planning Commission, including but not limited to
those uses authorized in the Marine Industrial District under section 21.53.020
and 21.53.030 provided the use meets the following standards”
It was clarified this incorporates the City Attorney’s suggestion in reference to page 97 of the packet.
HESS/MINSCH MOVED THAT WE INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE STARTING ON LINE 79 IN OUR PACKET ON PAGE 97 AND AMEND THE LANGUAGE ON ITEM P.
There was no further discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben suggested the following amendment:
·
Line 83 in the packet or line 81 on the laydown,
Item 1 would be amended to read “Proposed use is consistent with the purpose of
the Marine Commercial District,”
HESS/MINSCH MOVED THAT WE ADOPT THE LANGUAGE AS PROPOSED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY STARTING ON LINE 83 AND 84 INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET ON PAGE 97.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben recommended the following amendment:
·
Item 3 Under item O, Public Facilities and
services are adequate to serve the proposed use and add the word “and” at the
end of the sentence.
HESS/ MINSCH MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE ADDED LANGUAGE ON LINE 88 OF OUR PACKET ON PAGE 97 WITH THE ADDITION OF THE WORD “AND”.
There was no further discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben recommended the following amendment:
· Line 89 in the packet and line 85 on the laydown, Item 4 would be amended to read as follows, “On City owned land that the City of Homer Port and Harbor Commission, after a Public Hearing, makes a written recommendation to the Homer Advisory Planning Commission concerning the proposed use including specifically whether conditions 1-3 of the subsection are met by the proposed use.”
HESS/MINSCH MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE ATTORNEYS CHANGE OF LANGUAGE STARTING ON LINE 89 ON PAGE 97 OF OUR PACKET THROUGH LINE 93.
There was no further discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben suggested the following amendment:
· Renumber, beginning on line 88 of the laydown, sections 2, 3 and 4 to 3, 4 and 5.
HESS/MINSCH MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE CHANGE IN NUMBERING STARTING ON LINE 88 OF THE LAYDOWN.
It was noted the change is for line 88 through 93 of the laydown.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
There was brief discussion for clarification regarding the main motion.
VOTE (Main motion as amended): YES: MINSCH, HESS, KRANICH, FOSTER, ZAK
Motion carried.
PLAT
CONSIDERATION
The
Commission hears a report from staff, testimony from applicants and the
public. The Commission may ask questions
of staff, applicants and the public.
B.
Staff Report PL 06-110,
City Planner McKibben read the staff report.
Commissioner Zak stated he has a conflict of interest as he may be representing the applicant in a real estate transaction regarding this property.
HESS/MINSCH MOVED THAT COMMISSIONER ZAK HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
Mr. Zak restated his reason for declaring a conflict of interest.
VOTE: YES: KRANICH, FOSTER, HESS, MINSCH
Motion carried.
Commissioner Zak left the table.
There were no comments from the applicant or from the public.
HESS/FOSTER MOVED TO APPROVE
FOSTER/MINSCH MOVED TO ADD RECOMMENDATION 7 THAT READS “ENSURE BOTH LOTS MEET THE DEPTH TO WIDTH DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS OF KPB 20.21.080.
Commissioner Foster commented he thinks this is important in light of the proximity to an increasingly widening canyon in the area.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
There was no further discussion on the main motion as amended.
VOTE: (Main motion as amended): YES: FOSTER, MINSCH, KRANICH, HESS
Motion carried.
Commissioner Zak returned to the table.
OLD BUSINESS
Motion on the floor after reconsideration:
CHESLEY/MINSCH MOVED TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO OUR DECEMBER 6 MEETING.
There was no further discussion
regarding the motion.
VOTE: NO: MINSCH, HESS, KRANICH, FOSTER, ZAK
Motion failed.
City Planner McKibben noted that there were additional comments from Public Works that were provided as a lay down item. She noted that two Commissioners had attended a meeting regarding this topic outside of the Planning Commission meeting, and she asked that they discuss that meeting before discussing the plat.
Chair Kranich commented that he
was invited to a meeting in which the Mayor of Kachemak City, Phil Morris and
one of their Councilmembers were in attendance along with a resident of
City Planner McKibben commented that the City Manager, the Public Works Director and Mayor Morris have had a few meetings. They are working towards an agreement and a draft document.
Commissioner Foster stated that the gentleman on the phone was Kevin Walker and he had provided a letter in the last meeting packet. Mr. Foster noted the only other thing that came up in discussion was that the Mayor Morris noted the sewer contract expires this year.
Public Works Director Meyer
commented regarding his email which was provided as a laydown item. He noted
that staff had met with the developers and Mayor Morris for a pre-application
conference and there has been a lot of discussion regarding the unique features
of this subdivision. Mr. Meyer said the
concern from Public Works is that the subdivision is accessed through
Regarding addressing these issues through a subdivision agreement Mr. Meyer commented that even after the applicant meets the conditions of the subdivision agreement, it takes action from the City Council to place a road on the City’s maintenance map and authorize Public Works to maintain the road. He thinks the City would be able to participate in an inter-governmental agreement and noted that one is being drafted. There has been discussion regarding the conditions that would allow everyone’s concerns to be dealt with. He doesn’t feel having the inter-governmental agreement in place prior to the developing the subdivision agreement is essential to follow through on the conditions. The need for it will be when it goes to the City Council for authority to begin maintenance.
There was brief discussion regarding wording for a motion to incorporate the information provided from Public Works.
Chair Kranich called for a recess
at
HESS/MINSCH MOVED TO AMEND RECOMMENDATION 2 FIRST SENTENCE WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. THE SECOND SENTENCE AMENDED TO READ:
ITEMS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT MAY INCLUDE BUT MAY NOT BE LIMITED TO:
i. CONSTRUCTION OF SEWER, ROAD, ELECTRICAL AND PHONE LINE
ii. ROADS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION WILL BE MAINTAINED ONLY WHEN MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT CAN REASONABLY, LEGALLY, AND SAFELY GAIN ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISION, AS DETERMINED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
iii. NO MAINTENANCE WILL OCCUR OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS
iv. AN INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY AGREEMENT THAT ADDRESSES SEWER AND ROADS WILL BE IN EFFECT.
City Planner McKibben commented she is not comfortable with the inter-governmental agreement being part of the recommendation.
There was discussion regarding the approval of this preliminary plat and meeting it was noted that
· The Borough recommendations will say the applicant enter into a subdivision development agreement with the City.
· This motion gives the Public Works Director guidance from the Planning Commission on items that are deemed essential to be included in the subdivision agreement.
· An important thing about the subdivision agreement is that the developers and potential buyers of lots in this subdivision need to have an understanding of what will happen with the development and maintenance of the roads.
· The process was outlined that the preliminary plat comes to the City for review and recommendations to the Borough. Once the Borough approves the preliminary plat, the applicant does their engineering, wetlands delineation; meet with Public Works on their subdivision development agreement, begin the infrastructure, in compliance with the subdivision agreement. When the City inspector says the roads, drainages and any other requirements meet City standards and accept those improvements, the plat will go forward for final plat approval.
· Public Works prepares a memo recommending that they do or don’t take over maintenance within the subdivision after all the improvements have been constructed.
·
The inter-governmental agreement that has been
worked on solves everyone’s problems.
None of the concerns of the
HESS/FOSTER MOVED TO AMEND HIS AMENDMENT. THE SECOND SENTENCE AMENDED TO READ:
ITEMS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT MAY INCLUDE BUT MAY NOT BE LIMITED TO:
i. CONSTRUCTION OF SEWER, ROADS, ELECTRICAL AND PHONE LINE
ii. ROADS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION WILL BE MAINTAINED ONLY WHEN MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT CAN REASONABLY, LEGALLY AND SAFELY GAIN ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISION AS DETERMINED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
iii. NO MAINTENANCE WILL OCCUR OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
iv. AN INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BE IN PLACE THAT ADDRESSES ROADS, SEWER AND OTHER CONCERNS OF EITHER CITY.
There was brief discussion regarding whether the Public Works Director should be responsible in item ii.
VOTE (Secondary Amendment): NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT
Motion carried.
Discussion continued regarding whether the Public Works Director should be responsible in item ii.
Public Works Director Meyer stated that the City Manager and Mayor of Kachemak City would like to make sure the Commission understands that they believe there is an inter-governmental agreement that can be made to resolve these issues and that it needs to go before Council for a vote. Until that time, there are no guarantees.
VOTE (Primary amendment): YES: MINSCH, ZAK, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER
Motion carried.
FOSTER/ZAK MOVED TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION WHICH WOULD BE ALL SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS BE ACCEPTED BY HOMER PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO RECORDATION.
Commissioner Foster spoke in favor of his motion.
Public Works Director Meyer commented that before the subdivision is executed, typically a subdivider presents detailed construction plans prepared by an engineer showing all the improvements that are going to be constructed and that is what is referenced in the subdivision agreement. If they were to say that the subdivider can’t finalize their plat until all improvements are constructed there is no need for the developer to sign a subdivision agreement. One of the purposes of the agreement is to identify what is going to be done, require a performance guarantee that the City can use to construct if the developer doesn’t and to allow a developer to finalize a plat and sell lots. He thinks a detailed plan that meets the requirements of the City will be approved prior to executing the subdivision agreement, which would then allow them to finalize the plat.
Discussion continued reiterating the point that the groups involved are working toward an agreement to satisfy all the parties involved.
VOTE: NO: KRANICH, FOSTER, ZAK, HESS, MINSCH
Motion failed.
Chair Kranich expressed concern regarding the length of the cul-de-sac as it significantly exceeds the length allowed in Homer City Code.
There was discussion regarding cul-de-sac length and need for pedestrian access if the length is not reduced.
Kenton Bloom, applicant, commented regarding pedestrian access in the subdivision and said that in the pre design meeting this was addressed to some extent and he tried to address it at the Public Hearing as well by stating that they intend to provide additional pedestrian access interior of the lots, show the more community wide scope of the trail easement. Mr. Bloom said it looked them that there would be a trail off the end of the cul-de-sac and one mid span that would go from Canyon Trails Court down to the community trail on the south end, and constructed as a functional, legal pedestrian amenity. He noted the area using a map provided in the packet.
There was discussion addressing concern of the pedestrian easement crossing a driveway. Mr. Bloom noted that the easement crosses a flag lot and they aren’t constrained to putting the driveway in the flag lot, it is there to provide legal access but functional access does not have to fall within the flag.
HESS/MINSCH MOVED TO ADD
RECOMMENDATION 12 THAT
There was brief discussion that this would be beneficial for people living in the area who want to walk to have legal means to be off the roadway and keep the longer cul-de-sac. It was noted that it doesn’t make the segment of road comply with Code but it does provide benefit to pedestrian traffic and is consistent with action taken in other cases with longer cul-de-sacs.
VOTE: NON-OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
There was no further discussion on the main motion as amended.
VOTE: YES: MINSCH, HESS, KRANICH, FOSTER, ZAK
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben reviewed the changes for the bylaws.
HESS MOVED TO ADOPT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE BYLAWS AND POLICY AND PROCEDURES MANUAL AND FORWARD THEM TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
There was lengthy discussion regarding amendments to the policy and procedures manual. It was argued that comments regarding plats and other items should be taken as the issues come up on the agenda.
City Planner McKibben made a suggestion for the future that the Code be amended to require a public hearing on a plat. She added they may want to consider the same for non conformities and those are items that come before the Commission that involve an applicant. She noted a benefit to the change is that there are a lot of business items that don’t involve an applicant but public may want to address the Commission.
Commissioners made points that because of the uniqueness of their agenda where they hear from applicants and need to allow an opportunity for public to respond. Most of the Commission agreed that they should continue as they are and hear testimony under each agenda item.
City Planner McKibben explained that this is a directive from the Council. She has had discussion with the City Clerk and the point was made that if this agenda process does not work they can take it back to Council with an explanation as to why it isn’t working and provide suggestions for revisions.
HESS/MINSCH MOVED TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL REGARDING SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE ABOUT CHANGES TO THEIR AGENDA.
There was discussion regarding the benefits of having discussion with Council before adopting these changes.
Commissioner Zak said he doesn’t see a need for a joint meeting as the City Planner gave a good explanation of the changes. He recommended they let staff clean it up and put this through tonight.
VOTE: NO: MINSCH, ZAK, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER
Motion failed.
The Commission discussed the time frame from Council for making the revisions and talked about approving the amendment for the three minute time limit to keep with the November 1 time frame and addressing the other agenda changes to meet the December 1 deadline for the agenda format.
VOTE (Main motion): YES: ZAK
NO: HESS, FOSTER, MINSCH, KRANICH
Motion failed.
Discussion continued regarding the Commission’s agenda format.
HESS/MINSCH MOVED TO FORWARD THE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT TO THEIR BYLAWS THAT PERTAIN TO THE THREE MINUTE RULE.
There was brief discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
NEW BUSINESS
The Commission hears a report from staff, testimony from applicants and the public. Commission business includes resolutions, ordinances, zoning issues, requests for reconsideration and other issues as needed. The Commission may ask questions of staff, applicants, and the public.
City Planner McKibben summarized the staff report.
There were no comments from the applicant or public.
MINSCH/ZAK MOVED TO APPROVE
Staff
Comments/Recommendations:
Staff
recommends the Commission accept the two residential structures as
nonconforming.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben reviewed the staff report.
There were no public comments.
MINSCH/ZAK MOVED TO ADOPT PL
06-117
Staff
Recommendation:
Planning Commission recommend that the highest and best use of Mariner Park is for public open space, to include the activities of public camping, beach use and bird watching and that a fishing lagoon is not the highest and best use of the land at this time.
Chair Kranich commented as a pilot who has flown in and out of here since 1958 he does not want to see anything done under that flight path that would in any way, shape or form attract more birds.
VOTE: NON OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
REPORTS
A. Borough Report
Commissioner Foster commented
about the discussions regarding the new proposed
There was brief discussion regarding whether there has been any resolution regarding Borough Planning Commissioners voting both at the City level and Borough level. City Planner McKibben commented that she brought it up to City Attorney Tans recently when he was in town for a meeting, but has not heard anything definitive back from him. Commissioner Minsch said she would like an answer.
B.
There was no Kachemak Bay
Advisory Planning Commission Report.
PLANNING DIRECTOR’S REPORT
City Planner McKibben noted that they have a joint worksession with the
Port and Harbor Commission on November 15th before their regular
meeting to discuss overslope development.
Another worksession is scheduled for November 8 at
Commissioner Hess asked about informational item B. City Planner McKibben responded that the
letter from Mr. Stark didn’t benefit Mr. Gregoire. There is no process or procedure in Homer
City Code that allows the City to accept a statement from a State of
There was also discussion regarding the letter from East End Road Motors
regarding the sign. City Planner McKibben commented that there is no appeal at
this point and there is language in the Code regarding calculating the height
from the road. Planning Technician
Harness and the applicant will be working together on the measurements for the
sign. She added that the business owner
has been very cooperative in working with the City.
INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS
Items
listed under this agenda item can be HCC meeting minutes, copies of zoning
violation letters, reports and information from other government units.
A. Ordinance 06-51(S)(A)An ordinance of the
B. Letter dated
C. Letter dated
D. Letter dated
E. Notice of Corrected Appeal dated
F. Letter dated
G. Resolution 06-135, A Resolution of the
H. Resolution 06-144, A Resolution of the
I. Letter dated
J. Draft Resolution 06-___, A Resolution
of the
COMMENTS OF THE AUDIENCE
Members
of the audience may address the Commission on any subject. The Chair may prescribe time limits.
Bill Smith commented regarding
the rules and procedures that the Council is asking them to adopt. He said when
the Council sits as the board of adjustment they are entitled to dictate terms
for findings by the Commission. When the
Council sits as the Council and asks an advisory commission to act on
something, they are not entitled to tell the Commission what they will
respond. The Commission’s job is to
advise the Council. In the case of
amending the bylaws, the Council can listen to the Commissions advice and
ignore it, but the Commission does not have to tell the Council what they want
to hear. He said allowing people to
speak on items not on the agenda at the beginning of the meeting was added
because people were waiting until the end of the meeting to be able to speak to
some little item. In his years on the
Commission, he was instrumental in getting that moved up there because there
are very few people who want to comment on something not on the agenda and they
usually don’t talk very long. He
recommends that the Commission try to retain that.
COMMENTS OF THE COMMISSION
Commissioners may comment on any subject, including
requests to staff and requests for excused absence.
Commissioner
Foster commented that if the Commission wants any more information regarding
his presentation or any other sensitive area information he can get it for
them.
Commissioner
Minsch asked about training. City
Planner McKibben commented that she is working on setting up training at the
beginning of the year. Mrs. Minsch
commented that Commissioner Foster wears a lot of hats with
Chair
Kranich commented that since there now appears to be a different determination
of definition of a meeting for a Planning Commission and City Council there
needs to be more training and something more than just a memo coming down
saying what a meeting is or isn’t. Mr. Kranich asked if it would be possible to
incorporate an index with zoning permits and conditional use permits on
Planning’s web page so people can go on line and see what is going on. Ms. McKibben said she would look into
it. He thanked everyone for their work.
ADJOURN
Notice of the next regular or special meeting or work
session w
There
being no further business to come before the Commission the meeting adjourned
at
MELISSA JACOBSEN, DEPUTY CITY CLERK
Approved: