Session 05-16, a Regular Meeting
of the Homer Advisory Planning Commission was called to order by Chair Chesley at
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: CHESLEY, HESS, PFEIL, FOSTER, LEHNER, CONNOR, KRANICH
STAFF: CITY PLANNER MCKIBBEN
DEPUTY CITY CLERK JOHNSON
PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR MEYER
A quorum is required to conduct a meeting.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
AND ADOPTION OF CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the consent agenda are
considered routine and non-controversial by the Planning Commission and are
approved in one motion. There w
A.
Time
Extension Requests
B.
Approval of City of
C. KPB Coastal Management Program Reports
D.
Commissioner
Excused Absences
Commissioner Pfeil
requested that Item D – Town Center Development Plan under PUBLIC HEARINGS be
moved as Item A with Items A, B and C renamed as Items B. C and D
respectively. City Planner McKibben
stated Item B – Vacation of Portion of ROW on
The amended agenda was approved
by consensus of the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commission
approves minutes with any amendments.
A.
Approval of
LEHNER/HESS – MOVED TO POSTPONE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES UNTIL THE MOTION ON PAGE 6 IS CONFIRMED.
VOTE: YES. NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT,
PRESENTATIONS
The public may speak to the Planning
Commission regarding matters not on the agenda.
The Chair may prescribe time limits.
Public comment on agenda items w
RECONSIDERATION
A.
Reconsideration
Of Approval Of
CHESLEY/HESS – MOVED TO
RECONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE
VOTE: YES. NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
This item was moved to Item A under COMMISSION BUSINESS under approval of the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
The Commission conducts Public Hearings
by hearing a staff report, hearing public testimony and then acting on the
Public Hearing items. The Chair may
prescribe time limits. The Commission
may question the public.
Barb Seaman, Vice Chair of the Town Center Development Committee (TCDC) stated
that she attended a portion of the Worksession the
TCDC had with the Commission and now has more concerns. The TCDC has been stressing that the plans
are conceptual; the tools used to create them are flexible and can be used
beyond what is drawn in the two alternative plans. Comments made by the Commission indicated
they might not pick a plan, because they are conceptual. Ms. Seaman, addressing the Commission as an
individual, asked them to select one of the alternatives. She stated it would be better to chose one of
the plans and modify it to fit the needs of the City. She explained if one of the two plans is not
selected it may go back to ground zero.
Ms. Seaman is concerned the plan w
City Planner McKibben explained the TCDC had their first meeting October
2003. At the open house over 78 people
signed in and offered comments to the plan.
The plan was well received by the community and during the three-hour
open house staff and committee members were busy talking to folks and answering
questions. Ms. McKibben said the plan is
a nice piece of work the City can be proud of.
Richard “Bumppo” Bremicker,
Homer resident, provided the Commission with a letter and map addressed to the
TCDC. He has been interested in the
project for over a year and has attended some of the meetings. Mr. Bremicker likes
the design of Option A. Currently the
main idea is quite a bit of park or open green space that is broken up. He believes it would be nicer to have a
larger green space all in the center. It
would give the development a viewscape and add to the
value of the development around it. He
is not opposed to development in the area.
The topography of the area would provide a nice view of the bay for City
Hall. The plan shows a road cutting down
through the bluff which seems like a poor way of doing things; a road down next
to Petro Marine would give a nicer flow. A pond in the middle would allow for kids to
fish or ice skate. The pond would have
natural drainage. Mr. Bremicker said if the City makes this happen he asks that
the residential areas be worked on first.
Having people move into the central part of the City would help the town
grow and prosper.
Commissioner Foster questioned the use of the two rectangles Mr. Bremicker had outlined on the map. Mr. Bremicker
answered they could be businesses or residential with a nice view. He said leaving the bluff, removing the road
and placing buildings in the area would be nice.
HESS/PFEIL – MOVED TO BRING THE
Chair Chesley said because it was Ms. Seaman’s
personal opinion that the Commission select one of the plans it was his request
that the Commission stick with what they were tasked with by the TCDC. Chair Chesley
explained the TCDC asked the Planning Commission to move the whole plan forward
as a group rather than selecting plan A or B.
Both plans A and B were based on a set of assumptions that were placed
in a jar. By removing one or two of them
a development could look very different from plan A or B. City Planner McKibben concurred with Chair Chesley and stated there are good reasons behind Ms.
Seaman’s recommendations in selecting a plan.
In the systems approach there are differences between plan A and B
including types of streets and view shed vs. view corridor. They are the primary differences that are
policy decisions rather than circumstances that happen at the time.
Commissioner Foster said his personal preference was the view shed, but
he supports the view corridors as it supports the majority.
Commissioner Connor liked the idea Mr. Bremicker
had about open space, which was a common desire of most people that
responded. She likes the idea of nixing
the road that comes out in the middle of the project and placing it near Petro Marine.
Commissioner Connor said a large retail store with a large parking lot
around it is not a great idea for a town anchor or pedestrian friendly
Commissioner Kranich remarked that the flow of
plan A would be better, as plan B is more broken up. If the road that interconnects on
Commissioner Pfeil prefers plan A over B and
would like to see City Hall started tomorrow right in the middle of
Commissioner Hess questioned moving the road and its impact of coming out
so close to another road on the
Commissioner Lehner would like to see as much
consolidated green space as possible where people can come together for recreational
purposes. She is more interested in
getting community input and basing her decision on that.
CONNOR/PFEIL – MOVED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND OPTION A AS THE PREFERRED OPTION.
VOTE: YES. NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
FOSTER/LEHNER – MOVED TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION
BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
VOTE:
YES. NON
OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS
CONSENT.
Motion carried.
VOTE:
(main motion) YES. NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
B. Staff Report 05-101 Re: Request for a Conditional Use Permit
05-15/Straka for ground disturbance over 6,000 sq. ft. at
City Planner McKibben read a
portion of the staff report and staff recommendations.
Stephen Straka,
applicant, said he was available to answer questions. There was no public
comment or questions from the Commission.
HESS/LEHNER – MOVED THAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CUP 05-101 WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS
AND FINDINGS.
Commissioner Kranich
pointed out any runoff would be in the Bridge Creek Reservoir or any associated
stream or other watercourse. He
questioned how there could be any runoff without it affecting the reservoir. Chair Chesley
remarked that it refers to untreated runoff.
Commissioner Foster remarked if
there is a runoff from the top of the road because of trail compaction it w
City Planner McKibben said the
aerial photo shows a stream a significant distance away. Commissioner Kranich
questioned if the reseeding would be done yet this fall. City Planner McKibben said the next available
growing season would be the reasonable way to apply it. Commissioner Connor said the language was
contradictory in that it stated runoff shall be directed into an engineered
drainage system or into a natural drainage.
City Planner McKibben said the language came from the Code. Chair Chesley
explained the purpose of an engineered drainage system is to reduce sediments
and a natural drainage system slows the flow of water to allow sediments to
trap out. He said the natural system on
site that does the filtration on site would make it appropriate to use that
feature. Commissioner Connor referred to
Mark Kinney’s report suggesting that runoffs be directed from established
drainages. Commissioner Hess said it may
be a smart move to follow some of Mark Kinney’s recommendations. City Planner McKibben explained this is the
first CUP for ground disturbance and the Code was evaluated for the best
approach. The Erosion Sediment Control
Plan must meet the requirements and be followed. Commissioner Foster said he appreciates the
work of the staff and applicant.
Maintaining the trail is a good combination.
VOTE: YES.
KRANICH, FOSTER, CHESLEY, LEHNER, PFEIL, HESS, CONNOR
Motion carried.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends approval of the conditional use permit with the
following conditions:
1. A
drainage system shall be provided to direct all runoff from impervious coverage
or the disturbed site either into an engineered drainage system or into a
natural drainage, but no runoff shall be discharged untreated directly into the
Bridge Creek Reservoir, or any associated stream, or other watercourse.
2. Where
open-ditch construction is used to handle drainage within the tract, a minimum
of thirty feet shall be provided between any structures and the top of the bank
of the defined channel.
3. When
a closed system is used to handle drainage within the tract, all structures
shall be a minimum of ten feet from the closed system.
4. Natural
vegetation shall remain undisturbed except as necessary to construct
improvements and to eliminate hazardous conditions, in which case it must be
replanted with approved materials including ground cover, shrubs and trees.
Native materials are preferred for replanting operations, and w
5. Grading must not alter the natural contours of the terrain except as necessary for building sites or to correct unsafe conditions. The locations of buildings, roads and rights of way must be planned to follow and conform to existing contours as nearly as possible.
6. Upon
completion of earthwork, all exposed slopes, and all cleared, f
7. All
exposed, cleared, f
8. Drainage,
erosion, siltation, slope failure and other adverse
effects may be prevented or controlled by means other than vegetation, if
approved by the Planning Commission.
9. Development
activities shall not adversely impact other properties or watershed water
quality by causing adverse alteration of surface water drainage, increased
turbidity above natural conditions, surface water ponding,
slope failure, erosion, siltation, intentional or
inadvertent f
This agenda item was withdrawn.
City
Planner McKibben said the supplemental staff report is the proposed amendment
by the City Attorney. She suggested it
be incorporated into the ordinance before being forwarded to the City
There was no public comment.
HESS/KRANICH - MOVED TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO HCC 21.44.040 AND HCC 21.45.040 DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND BUILDING SETBACKS.
Commissioner
Lehner noted discrepancies in the proposed ordinance
and City Planner McKibben agreed that a section had been omitted.
LEHNER/CONNOR – MOVED TO CONTINUE TO LAY OUT THE
ITEM FOR COUNCIL.
VOTE:
YES. NON
OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS
CONSENT.
Motion carried.
E. Staff Report PL 05-102 Re: Request
for a Variance from the 20 foot Setback Requirement at 3141 Lake Street,
Commissioner Connor stated she had a conflict
of interest as she is employed by the Mack’s.
CONNOR/HESS – MOVED TO DECLARE A CONFLICT OF
INTEREST.
VOTE:
YES. NON
OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS
CONSENT.
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben read the partial staff
report and staff recommendations.
Donna Mack, stated
her husband and her are the owners of
Mrs. Mack stated the purpose for setbacks is for
public utilities and fire or emergency vehicles. Reasons for objection of a building in the
setback might be if the building is offensive to neighbors or within
roadwork. The property is between Ocean
View and the bluff. It is property the
City Planner has identified as rural residential. You cannot see the street from the structure
as it is a steep upslope covered with vegetation and trees. Public utilities are in. She has never known anyone to object to the
appearance of the cabin. The fire chief
has no issues with it. The secondary
road to the bluff is not something that the City would want to improve. Mrs. Mack said it would not be beneficial for
anyone to argue that the setback is necessary for public use.
Mrs. Mack pointed out in the City Planner’s
report that no other nonconforming situation can be applied to this case. Mr. and Mrs. Mack love the neighborhood as it
is rural residential and there is an obligation to keep the natural vegetation
of trees and native plants. The
neighborhood has a horse barn, chicken coop, duplex, and prefab home. It is not the residential neighborhood that
would come to mind. She disagrees with
the City Planner’s statement that the variance is sought solely for financial
hardship or inconvenience. She said they
are applying for the variance due to the threat of depravation of use to their
real property. She said a corner of the
cabin, 35 sq. ft. is protruding into the setback.
Mrs. Mack said they had discussed with the
builder they would like to stay in a natural vegetated and lay of the land
state. There was a drainage concern for
the neighboring lot to the west and in the past five years that property has
been f
Commissioner Foster questioned if Mrs. Mack
got a CUP for two houses on the property in 2004 when she got the building
permit. Mrs. Mack answered when she got
the building permit it was on the condition that she obtain
a variance for the cabin or move it.
Commissioner Kranich asked what type of
foundation was under the building and Mrs. Mack answered the cabin was built
into the h
Commissioner Lehner
asked Mrs. Mack to explain the structure built into the h
Dave Scheer
has known Mrs. Mack for a while and knows the building. The way the building is constructed it is
appropriate to look into a variance. The
change to the site may be a disservice to the area. The solution may be worse than the
problem. There is a mechanism in place
in the Central Business District (CBD) in granting variances to the front
setback through the CUP process. It w
Commissioner Hess clarified the setback relief in the CBD is not a variance.
HESS/KRANICH – MOVED TO APPROVE VARIANCE
2005-01/MACK.
Commissioner Lehner
questioned if the Commission could find out if the remedy was worse than the
disease. She asked why a CUP was not
appropriate. Chair Chesley
explained the mechanism in the CBD for setback relief is linked to the
Comprehensive Plan and how the plan sets out development of the
Commissioner Foster said when he initially
looked at the structure he believed he could support the variance as all the
conditions were there. It wasn’t in the
line of sight, was built in 1986 and didn’t intrude that much. Upon looking at the plan he noted the new
house was built without a CUP for two principle use structures. It didn’t have a CUP because the intent was
to remove the subject structure.
Commissioner Foster noted that a variance had not been requested prior
to building the new house. Additionally,
the new house is not built next to the building as a duplex,
it is totally separate and not connected.
He cannot see how the Commission can approve the variance.
VOTE:
NO. LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS,
CHESLEY, FOSTER, PFEIL
Motion failed.
Chair Chesley
called for a recess at
PLAT CONSIDERATION
The Commission hears a report from
staff, testimony from applicants and the public. The Commission may ask questions of staff,
applicants and the public.
A.
Staff Report
PL 05-62S Re:
Barnett's
LEHNER/KRANICH – MOVED FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
Commissioner
Lehner stated at the next Planning Commission meeting
she w
The
Commission discussed the potential financial conflict. Commissioner Lehner
said although the lot sizes of her subdivision and Mr. Neal’s are comparable
they w
Commissioner Kranich said at this moment there is no perception of a
conflict of interest. However, if Commissioner
Lehner’s preliminary plat is addressed at the next
meeting a perception of conflict w
City Planner McKibben said although there does not appear to be a direct financial interest, there is the appearance of a conflict of interest.
Chair Chesley read from the Alaska Planning Commissioner’s Handbook that the appearance of an unfairness must be avoided and can require abstention even when there is no financial interest at all.
VOTE: YES. HESS, FOSTER, CHESLEY, CONNOR, KRANICH
VOTE: NO. PFEIL
Motion carried.
Commission Lehner was excused from the proceedings and took a seat as a member of the audience.
City Planner McKibben read a portion of the supplemental staff report, staff recommendations and the options available to the Commission. City Planner McKibben said although the developer has not submitted a revised plat, revisions to the plat have been identified to include:
Access: The extension of Nelson/Ronda to
OPTIONS:
It appears the Planning Commission has several options for action on the preliminary plat.
1.
Postpone action on the preliminary plat.
2.
Discuss revisions proposed by the applicant,
make recommendations to the applicant for revisions to the preliminary plat
based
3.
Approve the preliminary plat as presented.
4.
Approved the preliminary plat with required
revisions.
5.
Deny
the preliminary plat as presented. Staff
recommends findings to support such denial.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS:
Staff
recommends item 2 above. This appears to
be the most prudent course of action. It
isn’t feasible for planning staff to do a thorough analysis of the proposed revisions
at this point. Additionally, neither the Public Works Department nor Fire Chief
w
Tony Neal,
developer of
Mr. Neal said
access points were made into an issue. Legal access points to the property were
provided to Mr. Neal by the City Planning Commission in years past for the
specific purpose of providing access to the property.
Mr. Neal said the lot size in Rural
Residential (RR) zoning has been an issue for some people. The average lot size in
Mr. Neal disagrees that a revised plat is
needed, had he understood one was needed he would have provided one. The plat change is so simple that further
debate wastes the public process time in his view. Mr. Neal drew up the plat change and provided
the Commission with copies. He stated
that he has all the legal access points that are needed. Through the Planning Commission’s promotion
he met with the neighbors and as a result of their input negotiated new access
through the further dedication of Nelson to
Commissioner Kranich
noted Mr. Neal’s letter said lot numbers could be reduced and lot sizes could
be increased on the north side of Sabina and
Commissioner Foster said he noticed Mr. Neal’s
letter stated the
Chair Chesley
explained to the Commission he had stopped the circulation of Mr. Neal’s plat
change provided tonight as Mr. Neal had not requested that plat to be approved
and it is not part of the public record.
It was not part of the packet for review, nor part of the public
notice. Chair Chesley
asked the public to limit their testimony to three minutes due to the number of
participants within the audience.
Brian Bennett, city resident, residing on
*
Increased
traffic on neighborhood roads
*
Access
roads needed to go into the subdivision
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Drainage
issues and the need for a storm water plan
*
Population
density
*
Wetlands
*
The
City’s wastewater treatment plant
*
The
City’s EPA discharge permit
*
Safety
for the students at
Mr. Bennett said they are on the way of a
good beginning. He appreciates Tony
Neal’s w
Tim Moore, thanked
the Commission for the opportunity to speak and thanked Tony Neal for his
openness in setting up the meetings with citizens. Although Mr. Moore was absent from the
community for the meetings, his wife was able to attend. His residence on Tasmania Court w
Karen R. Berg-Forrester, city resident and
realtor, has resided in Homer for 35 years.
She has lived on many streets, both paved and unpaved, and in several
neighborhoods. Currently she resides on
Kathy Smith, city resident, lives on
Bruce Petska, city
resident, borders Tony Neal’s proposed subdivision and feels he is impacted as
much as anyone. The talk of access of
Nelson and Ronda would make him give up a substantial part of his property. Mr. Petska said Tony
Neal is a local businessman trying to develop his property responsibly within
the set standards. One access is not
sufficient for safety or traffic flow and everyone should quit thinking in
terms of “not down my street” and start cooperating on several access
points. He is concerned with lot sizes
as well, but the lot size reflects the price, and these may be affordable for
young families. They are the same size
as the lots he has built on in the past ten years in Homer. Mr. Petska
concluded that this project is being funded privately and tax payers are not
being asked to foot the project as it w
Carol Hamik, city resident, lives on
City Planner McKibben answered Mrs. Hamik
that the Comprehensive Plan spells everything out and Mr. Neal’s proposal meets
the requirements of the RR zoning district with lot size requirements.
Carol Hamik added that she appreciates Tony
Neal coming to the meetings and stated it was great he was listening to people
and trying to do something.
Chris Morin, city resident, thanked the Homer
residents for supporting the
Sid Huffnagle, city resident, said he is
concerned about the water. Homer is
right on the border of being maxed out in supplying water and in another year
or two something radical w
Francie Roberts, city resident, lives on
Walt Suomela,
Ron Keffer, city
resident and principal of
Ginny Espenshade,
lives on
Paul Gavenus
contends that the
Dianna Sedor, city
resident, sent the Commission a letter that stated everything she wanted to
say. She said in the last week we have
seen what can happen in a city that is poorly planned, namely
Brian Bennett was allowed to offer the
following rebuttal: The concerned
citizens would be happy with going up to .5 acres per lot, a shift in the lot
size. He disagrees with City Planner McKibben’s analysis of RR zoning, stating the number one
reason for RR zoning is low density housing.
Mr. Bennett said it seems like Tony Neal and others are pretending that
sentence is not even there. He does not
believe it is low density housing for Homer,
Gary Thomas, city resident, thanked the
Commission for their time and volunteer effort in the incredible amount of work
they are faced with. He thanked Tony
Neal for meeting with the neighborhood groups.
Mr. Thomas said there are other developers that would come in with their
own agenda and just do it. The
neighborhood meetings have been a productive process in dealing with
traffic. There are a number of other
options in working between the developer and neighborhoods. He hopes discussions w
Linda Browning, city resident, submitted a
letter. She appreciates Tony Neal
meeting with the concerned neighbors.
She said it was unclear what the City would approve and it would be good
to have representatives of the City present at the neighborhood meetings to
answer questions.
Karen Berg-Forrester was allowed the
following rebuttal: Her home on
Tony Neal offered the following
rebuttal: He stated that most folks’
problem is not with the subdivision, but they are using this as a mechanism to
complain about traffic planning through their neighborhood. It is a concern of the residents, but Mr.
Neal does not believe he should be used as a victim for that issue. Mr. Moore compared his lot of 32,000 sq. ft.
which borders north of South Slope. Mr.
Neal said there is no sewage on those lots and they are dumping sewage on the
ground and then it ends up in streams and creeks. The lots are 32,000 sq. ft. as they don’t
have sewer according to Public Works.
Public Works Director Meyer said as soon as everyone gets sewer they
subdivide in half. The lots like Mr.
Moore’s are not up there for the wonderful open space, they have to be that
large to get approval for on site sewer, which in his opinion does not work.
Mr. Neal reminded the community this is the
City of
Chair Chesley asked
if Mr. Neal was interested in staff’s recommendation Option #2. Mr. Neal said the Commission could approve
the plat tonight and the ongoing process wastes the public process. He does not believe the changes are
significant to cause a replat, but if so he w
Commissioner Hess asked Mr. Neal his
definition of low density. Mr. Neal
answered RR defines low density and the City of
A procedural question was posed by the City
Planner to Deputy City Clerk Johnson regarding the motion to accept the staff
report that was made at the
The
CONNOR/KRANICH – MOVED TO ACCEPT
Staff Recommendations:
Planning Commission
grant approval of the preliminary plat with the following recommendations:
1. Dedicate
water, sewer and access easements across the entire panhandle of each flag lot.
2. Submission of preliminary engineering
on the water/sewer/drainage/road improvements to the Public Works Department.
3. Show wetlands and identify drainages on
the final plat.
The amendments on
LEHNER/CONNOR
- MOVED TO POSTPONE THE DECISION UNTIL REVIEWED FURTHER BY PUBLIC WORKS AND IN
LIGHT OF THE TRANSPORTATION PLANS ARTICULATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
CITY COUNCIL.
VOTE: NO:
KRANICH, FOSTER, LEHNER, PFEIL, HESS, CONNOR
Motion
failed.
KRANICH/CONNOR
– MOVED TO ADD STAFF RECOMMENDATION #4 TO ADD A 10 FT. GREENBELT EASEMENT TO
LOTS 98, 95, 94, 93 AND LOTS 97, 96 AND 92.
VOTE: YES.
FOSTER, CONNOR, PFEIL, LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS
Motion
carried.
FOSTER/PFEIL
– MOVED TO ADD 10 FT.
VOTE: YES.
PFEIL, CONNOR, LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER
Motion
carried.
CONNOR/
KRANICH - MOVED TO REQUIRE 15 FT. BUILDING SETBACKS FROM THE TOP OF THE BANK OF
ANY DEFINED DRAINAGE CHANNEL OR STREAM.
VOTE: YES. PFEIL,
CONNOR, HESS, KRANICH, FOSTER, LEHNER
Motion
carried.
LEHNER/PFEIL
- MOVED TO POSTPONE APPROVAL SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN MEET WITH PUBLIC WORKS,
OTHER CITY STAFF, AND REPRESENTATIVES OF OTHER ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS TO
DEVELOP ALTERNATIVE ACCESS OPTIONS THAT MINIMIZE ROUTING OF SUBDIVISION AND
THROUGH TRAFFIC ON TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL STREETS TO INCORPORATE
RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE DRAFT TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT ADDRESS TRAFFIC
FLOW ON MOUNTAIN VIEW AND ELDERBERRY DRIVES.
VOTE: YES. CONNOR,
LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS, FOSTER, PFEIL
Motion
carried.
Commissioner Hess said since the original
plat was presented there has been more time to look at the Code. Low density is subjective and lot sizes in RR
cannot correlate low density with lot sizes allowed in the RR district. Commissioner Hess said he struggles if the
lot sizes w
Commissioner Pfeil
said he has struggled with the same thing.
The development is not low density.
Mr. Neal has a responsible, well developed plan that meets City Code
right across the board. He has done
everything he has been asked to do. Mr. Pfeil would like to see a revised plat with people’s
suggestions and input on other accesses discussed and possibly fewer lots
before making a decision.
Commissioner Foster stated he was impressed
with Mr. Neal’s w
Commissioner Kranich
thanked Tony Neal for working with the community and the City of
Commissioner Connor thanked all the members
of the public for coming out with their concerns, good points, doing their
homework and citing City Codes. She
appreciates the dialogue Mr. Neal is w
Commissioner Hess said if it was a
Chair Chesley said
he has been on the Planning Commission for nearly three years and has had
serious debate on big issues in town.
The finest people in the community are here. Chair Chesley knows
Tony Neal personally and professionally and as a quality developer. He has raised his family here and made
commitments to the community. He is
respectful of other people. Additionally
Chair Chesley knows many other people providing
testimony against the
KRANICH/FOSTER – MOVED TO ADOPT STAFF OPTION
#2 AND SUBMIT IT TO THE DEVELOPER WITH THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS:
1. Provide
access via Nelson/Ronda
2. Eliminate
access via Kallman, unless a 60 ft. right-of-way is
provided.
3. Increase
lot size on the north side of Sabina and East and
OPTION #2 states:
Discuss revisions proposed by the applicant,
make recommendations to the applicant for revisions to the preliminary plat
based (on)
Commissioner Kranich
stated he wants the Commission to continue working with the developer and the
items are those he stated he would consider doing. A revised plat w
Commissioner Connor asked if other creative
ideas could be included and it was suggested a motion to include “as a minimum”
could be added.
CONNOR/FOSTER - MOVED TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT
TO INCLUDE THE WORDS “AS A MINIMUM” PRIOR TO THE LIST OF THE THREE ITEMS.
There was no discussion.
VOTE:
YES. FOSTER, CONNOR, PFEIL,
CHESLEY, KRANICH, HESS
Motion carried.
FOSTER/KRANICH – MOVED TO ADD
PROVISION #4 THAT A CUL DE SAC BE PLACED ON THE WEST END OF
Commissioner Foster said this provision may
be nixed by the Borough, but to demonstrate Mr. Neal’s statement he has no
interest in punching
Although Commissioner Kranich
understands the intent of Commissioner Foster’s motion it would be eliminating
one of the important accesses to the subdivision for emergency vehicles. He is doubtful the Fire Chief or Borough
would agree with the cul de sac requirement.
VOTE:
YES. CHESLEY, PFEIL, CONNOR,
FOSTER
VOTE:
NO. KRANICH, HESS
Motion carried.
Commissioner Connor would like to amend Plat Note
#7 that reads Portions of this subdivision may contain wetlands. She said it would be prudent to change may to do. Chair Chesley said
the Commission did not have the authority to make that decision. Staff works with the Corps of Engineers for a
wetlands determination and it w
CONNOR/PFEIL – MOVED TO ADD ITEM #5: AREAS
THAT HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO HAVE FLOODED HISTORICALLY BE IDENTIFIED ON THE PLAT AND
A PLAT NOTE IDENTIFYING THEM WILL BE ADDED.
There was no discussion.
VOTE:
YES. PFEIL, CONNOR, HESS,
KRANICH, FOSTER, CHESLEY
Motion carried.
City Planner McKibben said slopes over 20%
are typically shown as topo lines on the preliminary
plat. She explained there was one case
where 30% slopes were identified and they were shown in a different format.
VOTE:
(motion as amended four times) YES.
CONNOR, KRANICH, HESS, CHESLEY, FOSTER, PFEIL
Motion carried.
Commissioner Hess said it may be appropriate
to look at rezoning the area for future actions. The area may not be Rural Residential and may
be more appropriate for Urban Residential.
KRANICH/PFEIL - MOVED TO CONTINUE DECISIONS
ON QUIET CREEK SUBDIVSION PLAT UNTIL A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT HAS BEEN
PROVIDED.
VOTE:
YES. HESS, FOSTER, CHESLEY,
CONNOR, PFEIL, KRANICH
Motion carried.
Chair Chesley
called for a recess at
B.
Staff Report
PL 05-104 Re:
City Planner McKibben read the staff report and recommendation.
HESS/PFEIL – MOVED TO ACCEPT
There was no discussion.
VOTE: YES. KRANICH, FOSTER, CHESLEY, LEHNER, PFEIL, HESS, CONNOR
Motion carried.
STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS:
Planning Commission grant approval of the preliminary plat with the following recommendation:
1. Abandon one of the existing water services as required buy the Public Works Department.
City Planner McKibben read the staff report
and staff recommendation:
PFEIL/FOSTER –MOVED TO ACCEPT
Commissioner Foster questioned the existing
businesses and setbacks and how they fit into the Code. He would like the assurance the subdivision w
HESS/CONNOR - MOVED TO POSTPONE APPROVAL OF
PRELIMINARY PLAT COMMERCE PARK 2005 ADDITION UNTIL STAFF CAN REVIEW THERE ARE
NO COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS WITH OTHER PORTIONS OF THE CODE.
Commissioner Kranich
said the fuel tanks mentioned are regulated, above ground tanks and the State
Fire Marshall may need to review the setback from property lines. There is a specific criteria
for approval of the fuel tanks.
Commissioner Foster commented that the staff reports were very thorough
this week.
VOTE:
YES. NON
OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS
CONSENT.
Motion carried.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
The Commission hears a report from
staff, testimony from applicants and the public. Commission business includes resolutions,
ordinances, zoning issues, requests for reconsideration and other issues as
needed. The Commission may ask questions
of staff, applicants, and the public.
Chair Chesley asked to move Item A as Item C as there were members in the audience waiting for Item B.
LEHNER/PFEIL – MOVED TO MOVE RECONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES TO ITEM C.
VOTE: YES. NON OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
A. Reconsideration Of
Approval Of
Item A to be heard as Item C.
LEHNER/KRANICH – MOVED TO ACCEPT THE NONCONFORMING
STRUCTURE ON
Commissioner Hess said we need verifiable evidence
to show when the building was built.
Robert Wiard, applicant, told the Commission
the original builder of the shop Mr. Roger’s wife said the shop was built in
1974.
Commissioner Hess asked about the burden of proof in
nonconformity uses. City Planner
McKibben said testimony can be presented and a letter from the original
property owner could have been submitted.
Commissioners Lehner, Connor, Kranich, Pfeil, and Foster
accepted the assertion that the shop was built in 1974. Commissioner Hess wants to make sure the same
standards are applied to everyone. The
Commissioners reminded Commissioner Hess without evidence to show any other way
and no contrary testimony, it has been acceptable before.
VOTE: YES.
CONNOR, LEHNER, KRANICH, HESS, CHESLEY, FOSTER, PFEIL
Motion carried.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff
recommends the Commission accept the shed located in the 20-foot setback from
City Planner McKibben read the staff report and
recommendation.
There was no public comment.
LEHNER/HESS – MOVED TO EXTEND ZONING PERMIT
0803-069.
VOTE: NO.
LEHNER, HESS, FOSTER, CHESLEY, CONNOR, PFEIL, KRANICH
Motion
failed.
Chair Chesley said staff
is w
Chair Chesley suggested
that the rest of Commission Business be continued to the next regular meeting.
LEHNER/PFEIL – MOVED TO CONTINUE THE REST OF THE
COMMISSION BUSINESS TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
VOTE:
YES. NON
OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS
CONSENT.
Motion carried.
C. Reconsideration of Minutes of
D. Staff
Report PL 05-93 Re: Proposed Ordinance
Amending Homer City Code 21.48 Site Development Requirements and Homer City
Code 21.44 Rural Residential, 21.45 Urban Residential, 21.47 Residential
Office, Adding Development Activity Plan (DAP) and Storm Water Plan (SWP)
Requirements. Continued
from August 17 HAPC mtg.
REPORTS
A.
Borough
Report
Commissioner Foster remarked that
the Homer Planning Commission’s recommendation on
B.
PLANNING DIRECTOR’S REPORT
City Planner McKibben said the
Board of Adjustment (BOA) decisions on the Adair and McGreenery
appeal are complete. The BOA asked for
another public hearing by the Planning Commission on the Adair appeal. One of the appellants asked that a special
meeting be scheduled with only that topic on the agenda. The BOA upheld the Planning Commission’s
decisions across the board on the McGreenery
appeal. A vast majority of the points of
appeal were upheld on the Adiar appeal, but the BOA
did ask for another public hearing with specific things heard. Chair Chesley asked
if City Planner McKibben had looked into scheduling two special meetings before
the end of the year to follow up on some cleanup. City Planner McKibben apologized that she did
not follow up on that and would have to choose dates and it shouldn’t be a
problem. She suggested the Commission
could hold a worksession and work on the items
without taking action. A special meeting
for the Adair appeal was scheduled for
Commissioner Foster questioned
the status of the nonconforming use on the
INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS
Items listed under this agenda item can
be HCC meeting minutes, copies of zoning violation letters, reports and
A. Clerk’s September Calendar.
B. Informational
Memorandum regarding the Homer Planning Commission attendance at the
COMMENTS OF THE AUDIENCE
Members of the audience may address the
Commission on any subject. The Chair may
prescribe time limits.
Ginny Espenshade
asked the Commission if the consideration of the plat (
.
Paul Gavenus thanked the Commission.
COMMENTS OF THE COMMISSION
Commissioners may comment on any subject, including
requests to staff and requests for excused absence.
Commissioner Connor said in reading through the staff report for the Bridge Creek Watershed Protection District matter on the agenda fertilizers were recommended. She thought that was interesting fertilizers were recommended in the watershed district.
Commissioner Hess stated it is tough when you are in the position of a Commissioner as you can get people upset pretty easily. He said it is not the Commission’s intention and he doesn’t know what to do to prevent people from getting upset from decisions and comments of the Commissioners.
Commissioner Pfeil said you can’t make everyone happy all the time. The Commission is doing what they think is the right thing for the community.
Commissioner Lehner said as a member of the audience she was proud of the Commission. She said it was being forced to listen and watch the Commission dealing with complicated issues. She thought the Commission did a great job.
Commissioner Kranich
said when he served as a
Commissioner Foster said he
appreciates the quality of the staff reports this week. He asked that maps are marked as to the
subject area. He commented it was nice
to have Commissioner Kranich’s help on nonconforming
uses with his history as a life long Homer resident. He reminded everyone about the talk on Sunday
at
ADJOURNMENT
Notice of the
next regular or special meeting or work session w
There being no further business
to come before the Commission the meeting adjourned at
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JO JOHNSON, DEPUTY CITY CLERK
Approved: ________________________