PARKS & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION UNAPPROVED
REGULAR MEETING
Session 08-05 a Regular Meeting of the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Commission was called to order at
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS
STEWART, BREMICKER, GARAY, GUNTHER, TOLVA, LENTFER,
STAFF: PLANNING
TECHNICIAN ENGEBRETSEN
DEPUTY
AGENDA APPROVAL
The Agenda was approved by
consensus of the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A.
GARAY/LENTFER – MOVED TO APPROVE
THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT UPON MATTER
ALREADY ON THE AGENDA
Ms.
Commissioner Tolva arrived at
Beth Cumming, city resident, stated
she had some general thoughts about
Her notes that were distributed
contained the following points:
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This park is the largest and oldest
multi-use park in Homer.
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The playground was a great
addition.
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Future planning should consider the
park’s aesthetics; trees between the ballfields, parking lot maintenance,
planting bushes in general use area to the left of the road.
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Follow widely accepted procedures
in land moving and other construction activities.
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Hire a professional park planner to
get overview and plan rather than continue willy-nilly.
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Designate the top ballfield to the
left of the road as an area for general use. This has the kiosk with the grills
and picnic tables. Change this on the revised plan to be consistent with its
use.
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The land set aside for baseball
needs should be reassessed considering
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Consider using one of the fields at
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Consider using mobile mounds and
equipment so that one ballfield will encompass all age groups.
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Determine the usage for the upper
area to the right of the road. Putting fill here will bring it approximately 30
feet from the creek.
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Plant trees on the left of the
entrance. Remove the alders.
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Consider using the Red Shed as a
historical marker. It was used in the 1940’s or 1950’s to house some
activities.
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Will installation of the trail
prolong the installation of the parking lot? The baseball families have waited
and endured much for a decent place to park.
VISITORS
None.
STAFF REPORT
A.
June 2008 Staff Report
Chair Stewart commented that at the
end of the meeting he spoke with Planning Technician Engebretsen regarding the
There was a brief discussion
regarding delineation of state land and city land at the base of the Spit;
Expansion of the Spit Trail parking lot was in the right of way. The Commission
also discussed the proposed development on the corner of
Planning Technician Engebretsen
reported that the two resolutions were pulled from Council agenda until
Commissioner Tolva asked if the
area vandalism has been increasing; she is not sure what can be done to prevent
vandalism. She does not want to evolve into a “big brother” community but she
is at wits end on how to combat it. Commissioner Gunther suggested installing
cameras even if non-working,
these would deter some of the vandals if they think some was watching.
There was no further discussion.
B.
Chair Stewart expressed his dismay
in the absence of Commissioner since they had such a good turnout at the
meeting, the Mayor, City Manager and Councilpersons also came to the meeting.
He handed out the notes on the meeting. The parking lot was the main focus of
the group. Some points made at the meeting were:
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The parking lot is a mess with ruts
and heaves like an ATV course.
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Parking was along the sides of the
road constricting the flow of traffic and creating safety hazard for
pedestrians.
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There is no parking order or
organization.
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There were visible signs where
someone had dug ditches to assist drainage.
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There is a low spot at the
concession stand and backstop of the first minor league field.
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The hillside between fields
requires seeding.
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The area west along the ditch line
towards the far field has swampy conditions.
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The hillside between fields and
playground need to be seeded.
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Completion of drainage ditch and
installation of a ditch around the far field would help the drainage problems
and dry out the fields quicker.
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Remove more alders from the
playground area.
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A campground host is needed to
assist with the clientele of the campground. There were reservations from the
group on what that would take.
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The overall condition of the fields
is good this time. The worst time is always in May due to breakup.
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There has been no negative feedback
on the Concert of the Lawn event.
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Should the Park be more
diversified? Currently they do not have the circus/carnival, horses, or disc
golf, just baseball and t-ball.
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The batting cage is in poor, if not
safety hazard condition and needs immediate attention.
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The concession roof has been
repaired.
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Field preparation and grooming is
done by volunteers.
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There are vandalism problems with
the bathrooms. They are used by visitors and campers.
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The playground equipment needs
refurbishing. Some items are worn, and present safety hazards.
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Recommendations are to have High
School Students or other groups make these a project.
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The group reviews Ms. Cumming
proposals and walked to the top of the trailhead.
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Ms. Cumming gave a narrative of her
recommended projects.
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Terraced parking was talked about.
The lower terrace could offer a pavilion or additional green space.
Chair Stewart stated that the
Commission needs to sit down and brain storm to update the Master Plan for the
park and address the concerns pointed out. He has committed this group to
create a revised Master Plan to have submitted to Council for the
None.
PENDING BUSINESS
A.
The
Commissioners discussed the location of the parks visited during the
worksession earlier and current status of the parks as follows:
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WR Bell
and Reber Trail – Steep topography and will eventually connect to
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Woodard
Creek park – brand new piece of land in town on Spruceview; There are no
improvements; a 60’W x 100’L +/- piece of land; the Commission will need to
create a best use document in the future.
Commissioner
Dickerson visited
Commissioner
Lentfer visited Seafarer’s Memorial and the Spit Bike Trail. She was curious
who maintained the planters. She was impressed with the area as it was well
maintained.
Commissioner
Dickerson inquired about the land behind the school for establishing a disc
golf course since it would be closer to a larger residential area and be easier
to introduce to school kids. She visited the park in
Chair
Stewart visited Jeffrey park located behind Ulmer’s.
It is really nice and would like to have Planning Technician Engebretsen pass
along his comments to parks Maintenance Coordinator Hagerty. The development of
this park has been done over a 3-4 year period.
He then
visited
Planning
Technician Engebretsen stated that there is a process for adoption of the beds
and Park Maintenance Coordinator Hagerty is in charge of that, they get
volunteers to take care of the city’s flower beds and use plants from the City
greenhouse at the High School.
There was a brief discussion on
Commissioner Garay will look into
who adopted the other planters at Baycrest.
Commissioner Dickerson asked if the
trail at
There was no further discussion.
B. Karen
Hornaday Master Plan
TOLVA/GARAY – MOVED TO DISCUSS.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
Commissioner Tolva stated that
regarding the bridge for sale on the Spit for the amount they are asking the
City could not locate one as good or build one for the price. There is also a
bridge for sale in Seward. Planning Technician Engebretsen stated that there
are three ramps or bridges on the Spit. The ramp that was damaged by the big
boat is the right size. She stated that the bridge that Commissioner Tolva was
referring to was the wrong size. The bridge is under the Port & Harbor
ownership and they would have to be approached on purchase or some sort of
agreement. The bridge for sale in Seward is too large.
Chair Stewart stated that was one
component of the Master Plan. He would like to address the following items:
1. List
all the parks assets and user groups.
2. Contact
main user group, Little League, to get their input for the Master Plan.
3. Review
of the park’s history.
4. Review
the objectives and justification of any new proposals.
5. Review
current facilities.
6. Address
the playground maintenance.
7. If
the park fits local needs for current and 10-15 years in the future.
Some of the expenditures are very
costly. There are some construction costs that will need to be reviewed with
Public Works Director Meyer and developed further.
Commissioner Bremicker requested
information on the revenue earned from the campground and if it would need
expansion in the future. Planning Technician Engebretsen confirmed that it is occupied
all summer to some degree.
Revenue is tracked in comparison to
the Spit generated revenue.
Chair Stewart stated that the
heaviest use of the park is in the Spring with the
baseball season. This overlaps the camping and general use of the park from the
tourist and residents. This creates heavier traffic and more safety issues.
Chair Stewart approached the overhead photo of the park and pointed out a
proposed second road access . Commissioner Tolva recommended
a second bike-foot path access for the children to use. The Commissioners
discussed the cost involved in building a new road, the likelihood of the
children going farther to use the bike entrance and what type of path or trail
would be better suited. Chair Stewart then proceeded to visually described a suggestion for changing the parking lot, which
would allow more cars to park but then would need to address runoff and have
higher costs involved.
Discussion ensued regarding removal
of more alders for safety, increasing parking for the park, where additional
parking could be placed; relocating existing buildings to increase parking;
locking the gate to help prevent dumping and vandalism in the upper area; the
upper area to the west could be developed and used as alternative entrance;
drainage issues in multiple areas.
During the discussion it was
recommended to address the park in areas or sections to facilitate ease in
covering all aspects; access from the upper was not possible since it was too
steep and not a public road; location of where the footbridge from the hospital
was to be installed; the supporters of the bridge include hospital personnel;
the hospital leases the land from the City; children from the community to the
east would also access the bridge.
Chair Stewart would like to
schedule another meeting to work on this master plan. Commissioner Tolva
requested input on the suggestion from Ms Cumming to hire a professional park
planner. That they are not a professional planner or engineers and have spent
time mulling through things, but this needs someone who has the experience.
Planning Technician Engebretsen agreed. Chair Stewart agreed but had
reservations since they were to agree as a group what the best uses for this
park would be then submit. Commissioner Bremicker commented that the list
should be prioritized, get estimated costs and then submit to council and
recommend they get a professional planner. Chair Stewart would like to create a
brief history of the park, lists assets, a list of current and future user
groups, list infrastructure that us need or repaired now, then list long term
projects.
Planning Technician Engebretsen
stated that would be the best approach it would all the
group to pinpoint immediate repairs or upgrades and submit for the 2009 budget.
If there is consensus she can take that and prepare a draft master plan for
review and finalization at the next meeting.
Chair Stewart preferred to have two
more meetings before submitting to Council at the
There was no further discussion.
Chair Stewart called for a recess
at
C. WKFL
Master Plan
TOLVA/BREMICKER – MOVED TO DISCUSS
ITEM C UNDER PENDING BUSINESS.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
Commissioner Tolva reported that
she has finished gathering all the information. It is all in rough draft form
and will be giving to Planning Technician Engebretsen for final draft
preparation. She requested a copy of her notes. She would like to review the
draft at the next meeting.
There was not further discussion.
D. Information
from the Surveyor
This information is still not
available from the surveyor. Planning Technician Engebretsen did not know when
or if it would ever be available.
NEW BUSINESS
A.
TOLVA/BREMICKER – MOVED TO DISCUSS.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
Commissioner Tolva opened discussion by giving a brief history on the
Beach Access. Since the deal did not go through the developer has made good his
threat by wiping out all the trees from the property. She would like to do
something with this access since it is one of the few beach accesses that the
City did have; she said she knew that they had quite a few projects on their
list but would like to keep this on the list for future work. She did not want
this access to fall by the wayside.
Discussion ensued regarding keeping this as a public access. Status on the Steep Slope Development at the Planning Commission
level; regulations regarding replanting after development; addressing zoning
infractions without the proper documents in hand; who authorized the permits.
There was no further discussion.
INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS
A. Alaska Trails Newsletter
B. News Release from City of
C. Resolution 08-XX Amending the
Commissioner
Tolva requested information on the new trails poster for “Responsible Trail
Use” created by
Chair
Stewart commented on the letter writing asking the Commissioners to go to the
Department of Transportation website where they can post their comments
regarding
COMMENTS OF THE
AUDIENCE
Ms. Beth
Cumming, city resident, commented that she is very interested in the
COMMENTS OF THE STAFF
Planning Technician Engebretsen commented that there
is not enough parking at the
Deputy City Clerk Krause had no comments.
COMMENTS OF THE
COMMISSION
Commissioner
Lentfer resigned her position as a Commissioner due to her work schedule.
Commissioner
Tolva stated Chair Stewart has the help of the Commission just not last
Tuesday. She agreed with Commissioner Garay on hiring a professional planner.
She commented that she remembers the time and work in regards to the
Non-motorized Trails program.
Commissioner
Dickerson thanked Chair Stewart for taking all this on and all his work.
Commissioner
Gunther stated there will be hundreds of thousand if dollars spent on parking
lots alone in the Park. He would like to know what the revenue has been
collected so far this year. If can help decide if the campground needs to be
enlarged. He apologized for missing the meeting last month.
Commissioner
Garay commented she agreed with hiring a professional planner.
Chair
Stewart agreed also but that document needs review, streamlining and definition
by the commission before giving it to a professional person. He stated that he
is tired of talking and wants to get it done. There is a large group of
volunteers that are ready now and the Commission should get this finished. He
can use all the help. He cannot do it alone.
Commissioner
Bremicker commented that the Park is the oldest, largest and main park for the
City. The City needs to fix up this park and deal with the safety issues, etc.
There being no further business before the
Commission Chair Stewart adjourned the meeting at
Renee Krause, Deputy City Clerk I
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