PARKS & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION UNAPPROVED
REGULAR MEETING
Session 08-02 a Regular Meeting of the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Commission was called to order at
PRESENT: COMMISSIONER
BREMICKER, GARAY, TOLVA, LENTFER, GUNTHER
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER
DICKERSON, STEWART (EXCUSED)
STAFF: PLANNING
TECHNICIAN ENGEBRETSEN
DEPUTY
AGENDA APPROVAL
TOLVA/LENTFER – MOVE TO ADD
NON-MOTORIZED TRAIL PLAN UNDER PENDING BUSINESS, ITEM C.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES
A.
TOLVA/GARAY – MOVED TO APPROVE THE
MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT UPON MATTERS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA (3 Minute Time Limit)
None.
VISITORS
None.
A.
March 2008 Staff Report
a.
Reber Trail Funding
i.
Award Letter from the Department of
Natural Resources
ii.
Media Release dated
b.
Trail Criteria Manual –
a.
b.
Employees
c.
Parks Coordinator Hagerty
d.
Hawkweed
e.
Planning Technician Engebretsen
reported the following:
A $50,000 grant was received from
the State to construct the Reber trail; it will be sent out for design this
year and construction will be in 2009.
A Request for Proposal is in the
works for the Trail Criteria Manual. This document ties into implementing the
Non-Motorized Transportation Plan. Planning Technician Engebretsen commented
she would have more information at the April meeting.
Descriptions of the advertised
positions for Camp Fee Collectors and Summer Enforcement Aides were distributed
to the Commissioners.
Parks Coordinator Tammy Hagerty is
busy in the green house starting seeds. The Department of Agriculture is
looking for a volunteer field of Orange Hawkweed to perform testing of an experimental eradicating measures.
The Senior Trail location was
discussed by Public Works Director Meyer who had a meeting with Mr. Fred Lau
and came up with alternatives; one is trail between the Salvation Army and the
Church up to the
The Karen Hornaday Park Master Plan
is contained in the packet and if the Commission wanted a more in depth and
more conversational discussion with Ms. Cummings they will need to suspend the
rules.
Vice Chair Bremicker inquired about
the location the enforcement aides would be working. He mentioned Bishop’s
Beach was problematic but understood if focus was made on the Spit and with
parking issues down there.
Commissioner Tolva asked whether
the enforcement aide position was a new fulltime position; it is only a
temporary summer position and will be able to write tickets, etc. She also
recommended the
Commissioner Bremicker wanted the
opportunity for the Commission to review the Request for Proposal before it is
released. He inquired when the funding for the Reber Trail would be received.
Planning Technician Engebretsen explained that these are small projects in the
world of engineering and construction and want to get these projects out there
before all the companies are booked for the season. There are enough funds for
the design process in hand now and by construction in 2009 the remaining funds
will have been received.
He asked about the status of the
Vice Chair Bremicker asked for
clarification on the
Vice Chair Bremicker commented that
Ms. Cummings wants to discuss a specific plan and what needed to be addressed
was a discussion on the overall master plan to fine-tune it. He inquired who
was on the Committee. It was clarified that three persons were required.
Commissioner Gunther volunteered to serve on the Committee along with
Commissioner Stewart and Garay. It was agreed that the Committee would work
with the clerk’s office to set up the date, time and place.
Planning Technician Engebretsen
reported that the new restroom in
Commissioner Lentfer reported that
she attended the joint worksession on the Land Allocation Plan and the Council
did ask quite a few questions regarding the parks and she did not enjoy
answering, “I don’t know.” However, Mayor Hornaday recommended that the
Commission take the
Commissioner Tolva apologized, as
she was the person who was supposed to look into that and people were out of
town then it slipped her mind, but she will look into the matter immediately.
Planning Technician Engebretsen explained that Commissioner Tolva and herself were working that and they agreed to target the May
meeting.
None.
PENDING BUSINESS
A.
Vice
Chair Bremicker asked if Ms. Cummings wanted to present her proposal under this
topic however he did want to establish a time limit and suspend the rules so
they could have a more informal discussion.
BREMICKER/TOLVA
– MOVED TO SUSPEND THE RULES
There was
no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion
carried.
Ms.
Cummings, City resident, feels there are many areas that should be discussed.
She extended her thanks to those serving on the Commission. Since she was
limited on her time she would address only the Trail.
a. Woodard Creek Upper Trail Improvements
i. Letter
from Natural Resources Conservation Services
Dated
Woodard Creek Upper
Trail
When she
did the original proposal on the trail last June her main goal was to create a
trail and picnic area. She withdrew her proposal to resubmit a more defined
proposal to address two different areas.
Ms.
Cummings proceeded to give a detailed account and explanation of her proposed
trail. This included the installation of box steps to ascend and descend from
the upper area; removal of some alders and raised roots within the actual trail
path; and building a simple bridge to cross a drainage ditch.
Vice
Chair Bremicker commented that after viewing the information given to him and
the map included in the packet it did not quite help to define her proposal. He asked for clarification on the references she
made regarding the sections referred to area A to area B, etc.
She had
distributed a few color copies of her proposal on the trail to the
Commissioners, she apologized for not having enough and that they had to share.
She
stated the first proposal on the upper area refers to Area A to Area B. There
are no problems with this area that she is aware of; she referenced the letter
received from Mr. Kinney, District Conservationist and Soil Scientist Mike
Mungoven with Natural Resources Conservation Service of the Department of
Agriculture who walked the area on
It was
noted that Commissioner Garay visited the area and the upper trail is very
short.
Ms.
Cummings answered questions from the Commissioners regarding locations of
installed box steps in relation to various places such as the parking lot or
the hospital. Steps do not extend from the birch trees down to a former creek
bed, approximately 13 steps or less. The upper trail is a very simple task of
clean up. Further discussion regarding the area included in her proposal for
the lower area.
Commissioner
Lentfer expressed concern about disturbing any area or ground near to the
actual creek bed, which would encourage further erosion. It was explained that
the actual creek has changed its path and is west of the area described in the
proposals.
Mr. Robert
Archibald commented that any work would enhance the surroundings and stabilize
the banks from further erosion.
Ms.
Cummings reviewed the letter received from Mark Kinney, District
Conservationist.
Mr.
Bremicker wanted to move this discussion along and stated that the upper
proposal seems to be a small enough project that could
be accomplished and he wanted to include in the discussion some of her ideas on
financing this proposed work. His view was that when trails are created even a
short trail such as proposed it creates the momentum to continue.
Planning
Technician Engebretsen emphasized that the Commission should focus on
recommendation to include this trail in the master plan for the park. The
financing portion will be addressed by City Council.
Commissioner
Tolva reminded that the rules have been suspended and further opined that the
Commission should address the upper part separately from the lower proposal as
it was going to be a quagmire.
Ms.
Cummings expressed the desire to explain to the Commission what she has
accomplished in the last several months, some of which included:
Lengthy
conversations with City Administration
Letters
of support from previous Commissioners of the Park & Recreation
Letter of
support from Kachemak Bay Conservation Society stating they would like to
include it as a project. There is no financial commitment.
Vice
Chair Bremicker stated the allotted time has expired and asked if there was a
motion to extend the time.
The
Commission agreed by Consensus to extend the time to continue this discussion.
Ms.
Cummings continued the discussion by further describing what has been
accomplished regarding the Woodard Creek Trail.
-
Reviewed the area with three road contractors, an engineer and surveyor.
- Obtain
approximate costs.
-
Creation of Friends of Woodard Creek along with a few other interested
residents. Ms. Cummings gave a brief description on how one could join this
group.
Vice
Chair Bremicker stated that as interesting as the discussion is and as detailed
as it was they did not have the time to hear all the evidence Ms. Cummings had
to present. Since Ms. Cummings proposal addressed the upper and lower sections
independently he wanted to postpone discussion on the proposal for the lower
section and hear a motion on including the upper trail proposal. Vice Chair
Bremicker asked Planning Technician Engebretsen for a recommendation on the
wording for the motion.
Planning
Technician Engebretsen recommended the following:
MOVE TO
RECOMMEND KAREN HORNADAY MASTER PLAN BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE UPPER WOODARD
CREEK TRAIL PROPOSAL.
Further
discussion resulted included Planning Technician Engebretsen will draft a
resolution to include this recommendation and will present a draft of the
resolution at the next meeting. This resolution will be submitted after all
issues concerning the Master Plan have been addressed. Ms. Cummings opined that
the lower Woodard Creek should be addressed first prior to final work on the
parking area in 2009. Commissioner Tolva expressed her sincere thanks for Ms.
Cummings stepping forward and taking these problems and doing the footwork
necessary to accomplish the required work to preserve this area. She expressed
that the City should share in the costs but that there was sure to be
additional funding such as grants available and Planning Technician Engebretsen
would be able to direct them on that level. The discussion then turned to the
proposed parking plan included in the original Master Plan. Clarification on
the location and installation of additional ball fields, removal of a kiosk,
existing sheds was included in the discussion. Mr. Archibald commented that he
recently drove that area and felt that due to the steepness of the area and a
few other concerns that if not taken care of would propose a liability to the
City. It could be the beginning of a fine trail to the City from the park.
Vice
Chair Bremicker recommended ending the discussion at this time. He stated that
Ms. Cummings would be contacted regarding the time scheduled for the Karen Hornaday
Park Committee meeting. He then called for a break at
Vice
Chair Bremicker reconvened the meeting at
b. Woodard Creek Lower Trail and Picnic Area
This proposal to be addressed by
Karen Hornaday Park Committee and the Committee will submit their
recommendations to the Commission.
C.
Homer Non Motorized Trail Plan –
Mimi reiterated that what was in the wings now was the Manual.
Commissioner Tolva questioned that
some of the companies hired in the past were able to capture Homer, where some
just want to pave everything. She wanted to know if there would be guidelines.
Planning Technician Engebretsen and
Parks Coordinator Hagerty would be drafting the scope of work.
Vice Chair Bremicker inquired about
addressing any wetland issues. Commissioner Tolva did not feel that culverts
should be used to traverse water obstructions. Planning Technician Engebretsen
explained that construction would depend on the level of use for the trail; If the intention is to be
NEW BUSINESS
None.
INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS
A.
Flying Frisbees: Golf with A Twist
from CampBusiness Magazine January/February 2008 issue.
Planning Technician Engebretsen explained that someone sent the information to Parks Coordinator Hagerty and she thought it would be of interest to the Commission. Commissioner Gunther stated he actually had played the sport. Commissioner Gunther explained that there are actually established clubs and even one in Homer, there is a course on private land that they use.
Commissioner
Gunther commented that he played the game growing up and has even assisted in
building a course. He proceeded to give some ballpark prices on the equipment
needed. He explained that the equipment was fairly vandal proof and one great
thing about the course was it was installed in natural areas there was no real
maintenance except clearing underbrush and tree branches from the discus
baskets. The average cost for initial installation would be approximately
$20-30,000.00. Participants bring their own discus to play. This sport can be
performed by people with all physical capabilities, opens up unused areas of
parks. It is a sport that can occupy the kids for a few hours, will offer the
kids another alternative to getting in trouble. If Commissioner Gunther will
let Staff know at minimum a week prior to the meeting that he wants to schedule
the presentation would be good.
B.
Equipment Costs for Disc Golf from www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com
C.
Parks & Recreation Annual
Calendar 2008
The
Commission discussed the events as shown on the Calendar currently scheduled
for the monthly meeting agendas. It was noted that on the agenda for April they
will be discussing the resolution for the Woodard Creek Upper Trail Proposal;
the draft Scope of work for the Criteria Manual for Trail Design; Park Day;
Spring Park and Beach Walk-Through. Further discussion ensued regarding the CIP
projects and recommending the each Commissioner take the time to think of some
very important projects and that there needed to be some changes to their
recommendations. It was noted that most of the projects are extremely costly. Smaller projects may qualify and
attract grants or matching funds better.
D.
Homer City Council Regular Meeting
Dates
The Commission
discussed the Council meeting dates as advertised. Clarification was made on
what must be done when the Commissioners attend the Council Meetings. The
report does not have to be long, a few minutes, giving Council a brief summary
of what the Commission is working on; typically the last Council meeting of the
month is when the Commissioners attended since it is normally after their
meeting.
COMMENTS OF THE
AUDIENCE
None.
COMMENTS OF THE STAFF
Planning Technician Engebretsen welcomed
Commissioner Gunther.
Deputy City Clerk Krause commented Commissioner
Bremicker would keep everyone on task. It will be a very interesting year with
the Commission.
COMMENTS OF THE
COMMISSION
Commissioner
Gunther looked forward to working with the Commissioners and has enjoyed living
in Homer the past couple of years and wanted to do something to give back to
the community.
Commissioner
Lentfer had no comments.
Commissioner Tolva thanked staff for their hard work, it was a great meeting, she thought Commissioner Bremicker did a wonderful job, and she thanked Commissioner Gunther for coming on board.
Commissioner Bremicker felt it was good meeting and welcomed Commission Gunther. He felt there would be great progress working the Master Plan through Committee. It worked great for the Beach Policy.
Commissioner
Garay had no comment really, she would make sure to contact Commissioner
Gunther regarding the Park Committee meeting day and time.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the
Commission Vice Chair Bremicker adjourned the meeting
at
Renee Krause, Deputy City Clerk I
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