PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION UNAPPROVED
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 16, 2008
Session 08-09 a Regular Meeting of the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Commission was called to order at 6:30 p.m. on October 16, 2008 by
Vice Chair Bremicker at the City Hall Cowles Council Chambers located at 491 E.
Pioneer Avenue, Homer, Alaska.
PRESENT: COMMISSIONER BREMICKER, GARAY, DICKERSON, TOLVA
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS
GUNTHER, STEWART (EXCUSED)
PLANNING TECHNICIAN ENGEBRETSEN
(EXCUSED)
STAFF: DEPUTY
CITY CLERK KRAUSE
AGENDA APPROVAL
The agenda was approved by consensus of the Commission.
MINUTES APPROVAL
A. Meeting Minutes for August 21, 2008.
TOLVA/GARAY - MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
There was no discussion.
VOTE: NON-OBJECTION: UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON
MATTERS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA
There were no public comments.
VISITORS
Roberta Highland, President, and Jack Wiles, Boardmember
with Kachemak Bay Conservation Society (KCS) spoke on the Karen Hornaday
Hillside Park Master Plan.
Mr. Wiles explained to the Commissioners that initially the
KCS got involved with the Woodard Creek project of the Friends of Woodard Creek
and decided that aspect should be included in the Karen Hornaday Hillside Park
Master Plan. The KCS offered to help “flesh out” the master plan working with
Planning Technician Engebretsen and the Karen Hornaday Park Committee if the
Commission so desired.
Mr. Wiles drafted a plan and distributed copies to the
Commissioners and he listed a number of items that he felt needed to be
included, however he wanted to meet with some of the key stakeholders and other
city departments to get input from those sources. Mr. Wiles stated his
intention was to bring a fairly complete draft to the November meeting to
review with the Commissioners and receive their input or changes then bring
back a final draft to the December meeting for approval to submit to
Council. Mr. Wiles gave a brief
explanation regarding drainage; campground facilities; new or renovated
structures; meeting with the user groups; getting geo-physical restraints;
obtaining the possible assistance of a landscape architect; and funding
sources.
Mr. Wiles summarized his prior experience with the States
of Alaska and Oregon Park System for a total of 31 years. He explained that he
is not a park planner or designer but has been involved from operational and
administrative aspects of those State Park Systems.
Mr. Wiles answered questions from the Commissioners
regarding the draft plan submitted. He noted that it included some of the
public process that has already been done; setting of the park and the role the
park plays in the community and Woodard Creek. He did include volunteer
management for the park and campground such as hosts.
He has already scheduled a meeting with the geo-physical
consultant; he will be scheduling a meeting with Public Works and Little League
within the next few weeks. Mr. Wiles commented that developing a plan is great
but then it must be implemented. He noted that it would be the responsibility
of the Commissioners to prioritize the Karen Hornaday Park needs and all the
other parks. There was further discussion on lateral and vertical
prioritization.
TOLVA/DICKERSON - MOVED THAT THE PARKS & RECREATION
ADVISORY COMMISSION RECOMMEND PLANNING TECHNICIAN ENGEBRETSEN WORK WITH MR.
JACK WILES OF THE KACHEMAK CONSERVATION SOCIETY AND THE FRIENDS OF WOODARD
CREEK TO ENHANCE AND FINISH THE KAREN HORNADAY MASTER PLAN.
Commissioner Garay requested that Mr. Wiles email to
Planning Technician Engebretsen and she can then email to the Committee.
Deputy City Clerk did note that it would be better to meet
with the Committee since it was unlikely to have a quorum in the coming months
with the Commission due to absences and membership. There was further
discussion regarding setting a specific meeting time.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS.
Motion carried.
Ms. Highland requested Commissioner Bremickers email
address to add him to her list. It was noted by the Clerk that all email was
considered a meeting and should include the Clerk’s office and staff. She
explained it would be considered a violation of the open meeting act.
Commissioner Tolva offered the opinion that the Master Plan
was poorly received by City Council because they perceived it to be a final
complete master plan and what the Commission wanted for the Park. She wanted to
clarify that the intention of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission was
to submit an outline that would be improved upon over time by more qualified
persons.
Ms. Highland wanted to bring to Commissioners attention
that they needed a document that could be used to obtain grants. However, a
more important point that she wanted to be addressed was the fill that is to
this day being dumped at the park in the northern area by the gate.
There was further discussion regarding the benefits of
having a complete master plan and that the Commissioners had no idea there was
dumping; keeping it as simple as possible; and coordinating all factions
involved.
Vice Chair Bremicker called for a break at 7:02 p.m. The
meeting was reconvened at 7:07 p.m.
Mr. Robert Archibald, resident and member of the Friends of
Woodard Creek enlightened the Commissioners regarding some details of Woodard
Creek and a recent visit to Public Works and then to the Karen Hornaday Park.
He recounted that during the Concert on the Lawn he performed a canvas
regarding the number of cars that were accommodated in the current parking lots
and the benefits of executing parking plan for that park.
Further discussion evolved regarding standards for parking.
Commissioner Tolva requested notes from the last walk
through at the park and the creek area from Mr. Archibald. Commissioner
Bremicker suggested that it would be best to include these for the next
meeting.
TOLVA/BREMICKER – THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY
COMMISSION RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY STOP ALL CURRENT AND FUTURE DUMPING OF FILL
MATERIALS IN KAREN HORNADAY HILLSIDE PARK AND IN PARTICULAR THE WOODARD CREEK
AREA.
There was no further discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
STAFF REPORT/COMMITTEE
REPORT
A. Staff
Report for September and October 2008
Vice Chair Bremicker reviewed the staff reports. He
commented on the additional help from the Friends of Woodard Creek and KCS for
the master plan being a good thing. He reviewed the scheduling for the master
plan development to be as follows:
1.
Review
revised draft master plan during Committee meeting.
2.
Review
draft master plan after revisions made by joint worksession(s) with Committee
and Jack Wiles.
3.
Final
recommendations by Commissioners.
4.
Submit
to City Council for approval.
There was a brief discussion on the status of the
resolution 08-97(A) regarding Disc Golf at Jack Gist Park. The City Council
requested recommendations on funding for this to be implemented. The clerk
recommended that the Commissioners put this on future agendas to be discussed
when Commissioner Gunther is in attendance. Commissioner Tolva requested
information and direction on applying for grants. Vice Chair Bremicker
requested this to be on the November agenda for discussion.
There was further discussion by the Commissioners on jersey
barriers, replacement dock project and the budget, applying for grants and more
creative ways to fund the goals set by the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Commission. There was further discussion of alternative location to store fill
materials by the City and at little or no cost. Vice Chair Bremicker did not
feel that it was the Commissions responsibility to address this other than the
dumping of fill materials within parks.
Vice Chair Bremicker inquired about the funds in the trail
monies. He wanted to know the expenditure amounts and monies in the fund that
have been earmarked. This led into a brief discussion on the worksession with
the Transportation Advisory Committee on the Non-Motorized Trails Criteria
Manual. Commissioner Tolva recommended that everyone attend this worksession.
Commissioner Garay stated she would be able to but would arrive a little late.
Vice Chair Bremicker commented on the goal added under the
Parks, Recreation and Culture Chapter of the Comprehensive Plan. He indicated
he would like to see what has been included. Vice Chair Bremicker inquired if
the Commission would be able to review this before submittal to Council. Deputy
City Clerk Krause explained that it may be possible and outlined the schedule
for submittal to City Council.
The Commissioners discussed the November meeting date and
the possibility of no quorum, plus the Karen Hornaday Park Committee meeting
schedule. Commissioner Garay stated she would email the clerk as soon as she
heard from Mr. Wiles and she would let them know that the Clerks Office
required 10 days prior to the meeting date in order to have it properly
advertised.
There was no further discussion.
PUBLIC HEARING
There were no public hearings.
PENDING BUSINESS
A. Memorandum
from Planning Technician Engebretsen Re: Karen Hornaday Park Plan
a.
Letter
from Friends of Woodard Creek dated October 8, 2008
b. Master Plan submitted to Council September 8,
2008 with grammar and format changes.
c. Memorandum and Master Plan submitted
to Council on September 8, 2008.
There was
no discussion.
A.
Doggie Pot Offer
TOLVA/GARAY – MOVED TO DISCUSS.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION.
UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
Commissioner Tolva commented that
she at first was wondering what a doggie pot was then after reading the letter
summarized that it was a nice offer to provide a apparatus that dispenses
plastic bags for people to be responsible pet owners. She thought it would be a
great too to accept this offer.
Commissioner Dickerson commented
that Parks Maintenance Coordinator Hagerty stated this service was already
provided by the City so it was not needed.
Deputy City Clerk Krause
responded that conferring with Planning Technician Engebretsen who said that
these dispensers required a specific bag and therefore would add an expense
that the City cannot afford. She recommended that the Commissioners have staff
draft a thank you letter suggesting other locations or organizations.
Discussion ensued regarding
accepting the offer as long as the apparatuses used recycled bags and concluded
following staff recommendation but include a statement that the Commission
supports the use of recycled materials in the thank you letter to the Homer
Animal Friends.
There was no further discussion.
B.
Meeting Schedule for 2009
The Commissioners discussed the schedule for 2009 and the
difficulties in thinking that far ahead. Most agreed that they should just
approve the regular schedule and if needed they can cancel or change the
meetings as required. Vice Chair Bremicker was concerned about the
Commissioners renewal dates. Commissioner Dickerson stated that Commissioner
Gunther did state that he would give the role of Chair a go. The Clerk confirmed
that in lieu of a Chair or Vice Chair the most senior member of the Commission
would then act as Chair and that elections will be on the November agenda.
DICKERSON/TOLVA – MOVED TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL MEETING DATES
FOR 2009.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
Motion carried.
INFORMATIONAL
MATERIALS
A. Council
Meeting Schedule
Commissioner Garay and Dickerson will attend the October
27, 2008 Council meeting to comment on the Master plan. The Clerk confirmed the
approximate time that they should attend the meeting. Vice Chair Bremicker
relayed that twice he has reported before City Council and twice he was there
to report and the Mayor just went quickly by the item. The Clerk confirmed that
it would be better to have something in print for the Council packet. She would
try to have something typed up to be included.
Commissioner Bremicker questioned
whether he should resign from the Commission since he will be gone for the
majority of the winter. The Clerk advised that it was not necessary to resign
and pointed out that last year they did not have any meetings for several
months.
Further discussion regarding
getting the master plan wrapped up and whether to cancel the December meeting;
the availability of Commissioner Gunther for November and December.
Commissioner Gray offered to contact Commissioner Gunther to make sure he will
be in attendance at the November meeting.
There was no further discussion.
B. Commission
Annual Calendar
Vice Chair Bremicker reviewed the annual calendar
established for the Parks & Recreation Advisory Commission
TOLVA/GARAY – MOVED TO CANCEL THE
DECEMBER 18, 2008 MEETING.
There was no discussion.
VOTE. YES. NON-OBJECTION. UNANIMOUS
CONSENT.
Motion carried.
COMMENTS OF THE
AUDIENCE
None.
COMMENTS OF THE STAFF
Deputy City Clerk Krause had no comments.
COMMENTS OF THE
COMMISSION
Commissioner Garay stated she was glad to see Mr. Wiles
step up and offer his services. That it is a really good thing. She was glad
that everyone was able to work together.
Commissioner Bremicker commented he was happy to see tat
interest was for the overall master plan not just a portion of the plan. He
stated all the elements that are needed such as parking, drainage, etc. He
would like to see this completed soon.
Commissioner Dickerson she thought it was great to
capitalize on the enthusiasm of the volunteers. She would like to see some
prioritization but would like to see something actually get done. She commented
on the path off of Herndon, that it was very accessible.
Commissioner Tolva encouraged Commissioners Garay and
Dickerson to Chair for a term in the future. It is worth the experience. It was
a great meeting. She enjoyed seeing that everyone could work together.
The commissioners exchanged contact information.
ADJOURN
There being no further business to come before the
Commission the meeting was adjourned at 8:00 p.m. The next regular meeting is
scheduled for November 20, 2008 at the City Hall Cowles Council Chambers,
Homer, Alaska.
Renee Krause, Deputy City Clerk I
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